[PEN-L] Fwd: Military Coup Planned for Iraq?

2007-08-23 Thread Jim Devine
-- Forwarded message -- From: Cole, Juan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A rumor is circulating among well-connected and formerly high-level Iraqi bureaucrats in exile in places like Damascus that a military coup is being prepared for Iraq. I received the following from a reliable, knowledgeab

Re: [PEN-L] Books/ articles criticizing this eurocentric idea

2007-08-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Walt Byars wrote: Hi, can anyone recommend some books or articles criticizing the (absurd sounding) claim that that the idea of political freedom and its desirability were invented in the West and only exists in other cultures because of Western influence (and similar such claims)? I don't know

[PEN-L] PG&E spying

2007-08-23 Thread Seth Sandronsky
http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/Content?oid=417750 Copyright ©2007 Chico Community Publishing, Inc. PG&E's black ops By Cosmo Garvin Who was PG&E spying on in Yolo County during a bitter political campaign to unseat the utility and replace it with the not-for-profit Sacramento Municipal Ut

Re: [PEN-L] Books/ articles criticizing this eurocentric idea

2007-08-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
At the risk of more rants, I will also recommend Sen's "The Argumentative Indian". There are a couple of chapters (the first two) that deal with democracy, pluralism, and voice in a broad (Indian) historical sweep making precisely the argument that democracy is neither new nor western in pract

[PEN-L] Here's an Indian Conundrum

2007-08-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
India will become one of the world's top 10 drugs markets by 2015 as incomes rise and "lifestyle" ailments such as heart disease become more common, global consultancy McKinsey said Wednesday. Underpinning the rosy scenario for the pharmaceuticals market is an expected rise in per capita disposabl

[PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
The Financial Times, I;m told (haven't been able to find it) reports that Venezuela is going to the six hour day of work. Can someone tell us about that? Gene Coyle

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Eugene Coyle wrote: The Financial Times, I;m told (haven't been able to find it) reports that Venezuela is going to the six hour day of work. Can someone tell us about that? Gene Coyle For what it's worth: NY Times, August 23, 2007 Op-Ed Columnist The Great Clock Plot By GAIL COLLINS This

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
From NYT: "But what if there’s a trend under way here? The list of countries who use the half-hour system does not inspire much confidence. There’s Burma. And Afghanistan. And then there’s Nepal. When the countries around it are at 3 p.m., Nepal believes it to be 3:45. This may have something to

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread ken hanly
Actually Newfoundland is mainly in the news these days because of oil deposits off its coast. It may actually become a "have" province. A Canadian comic used to say that he could always pick out Canadians in the audience by whomever laughed at this: The world will end at 9 PM tomorrow, 9:30 i

Re: [PEN-L] Books/ articles criticizing this eurocentric idea

2007-08-23 Thread Jim Devine
me: > >> On the other hand, Western-style possessive individualism (a.k.a. > >> anti-social personality disorder) does seem to have arisen with > >> capitalism, somewhere between 1600 and 1700. (The first well-known > >> book with this sort of ideology is Hobbes' LEVIATHAN, published in > >> 1660.)

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Sandwichman
On 8/23/07, Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted the New York Times: > > > 1) Cutting everyone's work day to six hours will increase national > productivity; and 2) That if you change 7 a.m. to 6:30, it will create a > "metabolic effect, where the human brain is conditioned by sunlight." > > No

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ken: > The world will end at 9 PM tomorrow, 9:30 in > Newfoundland. I once had a Newfie lover but that relationship was a total mismatch. Now, I understand why: she was living half an hour ahead of me. Sabri

[PEN-L] Molly Ivin's last words

2007-08-23 Thread The Buffalo In Da' Midst
[August 23 2007] Travus T. Hipp Morning News & Commentary: Appreciating Powerful Women And The Emasculation Of Anti-War Protests - Molly Ivin's Last Words "Go Out In The Streets And Bang Pots & Pans" Are An Offense Worth Surveilling According To The White House… So What Are You Going To Do About I

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Jim Devine
I think we should all go back to the system that used to prevail in Saudi Arabia: skip all this time-zone stuff and go for solar time! In Arizona, they do not follow the rest of the country to change to daylight savings time. That's okay, except the Hopis do switch to DST -- and the Navajos do not

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread michael a. lebowitz
At 07:34 AM 23/08/2007, you wrote: The Financial Times, I;m told (haven't been able to find it) reports that Venezuela is going to the six hour day of work. Can someone tell us about that? Gene Coyle As this is a work in process (changing by the day as is characteristic of the Bolivarian revo

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Dan Scanlan
On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Jim Devine wrote: I think we should all go back to the system that used to prevail in Saudi Arabia: skip all this time-zone stuff and go for solar time! I have been trying to convince a sophisticated programmer friend of mine since childhood that there is major ch

[PEN-L] New book on class from Monthly Review Press

2007-08-23 Thread MICHAEL YATES
Monthly Review Press has just published More Unequal: Aspects of Class in the United States, edited by Michael D. Yates. You can check it out at . Class mobility, the growing income and wealth divides, class and schooling, class and race, class and g

[PEN-L] ... just a bull market correction

2007-08-23 Thread Julio Huato
A contrarian view of the credit mess: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/925b018a-5111-11dc-8e9d-779fd2ac.html

[PEN-L] On Venezuela's economy

2007-08-23 Thread Julio Huato
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d83b3294-51b4-11dc-8779-779fd2ac.html

Re: [PEN-L] On Venezuela's economy

2007-08-23 Thread raghu
More on Venezuela: Hugo Chavez subsidizes bus travel for London's poor, starting a debate about one of the world's richest cities being subsidized by a poor country. (So what's new? China finances the US trade deficit, Chavez offers cheap heating to residents of the Bronx..) http://www.theage.com.a

[PEN-L] A member of my team pushes bonds up, stocks down

2007-08-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Market Features Countrywide CEO Takes the Punch Bowl Away By Liz Rappaport Markets Columnist 8/23/2007 6:04 PM EDT URL: http://www.thestreet.com/markets/marketfeatures/10376141.html By discrediting virtually every step taken thus far to help the housing market and the mortgage industry, Country

Re: [PEN-L] Books/ articles criticizing this eurocentric idea

2007-08-23 Thread Perelman, Michael
I don't know if individualist communitarianism initially had something comparable to the slaves, but it did differ from possessive individualism in the sense that it did not place of high-value on consumptionism, but rather on people developing their own potential -- something like From: PEN-L lis

[PEN-L] Voice recognition gone wild.

2007-08-23 Thread Perelman, Michael
I don't know if individualist communitarianism initially had something comparable to the slaves, but it did differ from possessive individualism in the sense that it did not place of high-value on consumptionism, but rather on people developing their own potential -- something like Sen [using voice

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Perelman, Michael
Richistan has a short section on watches for the elites, which can run well over $100,000. One expensive watch has the hours on the clock face organized in an irregular order, making it difficult to keep time. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csu

[PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Wall Street has been hiring mathematicians (like Sabri) and physicists to devise sophisticated computer models to beat the market. Here is Goldman Sachs explanation about how its fund lost 30%: Anon. 2007. "The Game Is Up." The Economist (16 August). "Goldman Sachs ... said that its funds [one of

[PEN-L] Fwd: Bolivia enters into a dangerous phase as constituent assembly forced into indefinite suspension

2007-08-23 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:13:13 -0400 From: "Fred Fuentes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Bolivia enters into a dangerous phase as constituent assembly forced into indefinite suspension Subject: Bolivia enters into a dangerous phase as constituent assembly forced into indefinite suspens

[PEN-L] IMF and the Washington Consensus

2007-08-23 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Members of Congress Question IMF on Coup in Venezuela By Robert Naiman Huffington Post August 21, 2007 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/members-of-congress-quest_b_61285.html One activity you can't do too much: challenge the hollowness of the Bush Administration's rhetoric about "suppo

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread sartesian
Garbage in is garbage out. Market movements are not hermetically sealed, isolated events, based on an algorithm of most likely/least likely. There is a real inability to maintain profitability- hardly a .000..138 more ..6 experience for capitalism. - Original Message - From: "Mich

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
The models are getting much better: "[On] Black Monday, ... on no apparent news, the market plunged 23 percent. Economists later figured that, on the basis of the market's historic volatility, had the market been open every day since the creation of the Universe, the odds would still have been ag

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
I'm doing better than Goldman Sachs by buying lottery tickets. It is just a matter of time ... Gene On Aug 23, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: Wall Street has been hiring mathematicians (like Sabri) and physicists to devise sophisticated computer models to beat the market. Here is

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hey! This financial engineering thing is not such a bad thing with all these Sovereign Wealth Funds and stuff. Someone should tell Chavez that if Venezuela is interested in starting their own, I would be happy to help. The next world war will not be fought on the battle grounds, it will be fough

Re: [PEN-L] Venezuela and 6 hour day?

2007-08-23 Thread Sandwichman
Thanks, Michael. On 8/23/07, michael a. lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 07:34 AM 23/08/2007, you wrote: > >The Financial Times, I;m told (haven't been able to find it) reports > >that Venezuela is going to the six hour day of work. > > > >Can someone tell us about that? > > > >Gene Coyl

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread raghu
On 8/23/07, Sabri Oncu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The next world war will not be fought on the battle grounds, it will be fought > in the capital markets, or so I expect. > Does anyone on the Street actually believe in these models, or are they just using it as an excuse to goose up their asset

Re: [PEN-L] the glories of financial engineering

2007-08-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Raghu: > (i.e. are these guys liar and thieves, or are they merely > naive and stupid?) Some maybe naive but none of them is stupid. I happen to know a few of the quants at Goldman Asset Management and they are invariably very smart, and knowledgeable. Quite nice people, too. But once your boss