Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan,

Jim D asked: To what extent are the coal mines of the PRC privatized (see below)? If they aren't, why is privatization an issue? Jim Devine --Jim, I said, I'm pretty sure, pace of privatization, not privatization, is at issue. Steve

[PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

For moi, an important aspect of analyzing a situation concerning the right to national liberation and self-determination is considering oppressed nation and oppressor nation dynamics, and the history. The main oppressor nationalism involved in the history and origin of Taiwan as a separate nation

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

I wrote: Obviously, these are important indicia, but it's up to the people involved (the Mainlanders, the Taiwanese) to decide how distinct they are, in a democratic way. One thing that should be noted is that Taiwan has a Formosan (non-Han) population that the PRC lacks Steve Philion

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So you're advocating that the PRC take over Taiwan by force if necessary? The way they invaded Vietnam? (Was it US imperialism that caused the latter?) BTW, who said that the Chinese CP wasn't communist? not I. It does seem to me that after decades in power, the internal nature of party has

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

To what extent are the coal mines of the PRC privatized (see below)? If they aren't, why is privatization an issue? Jim Devine Perhaps 40-50% of coal produced in China comes out of private mines. Because they're usually much smaller, they make up the bulk of coal mines, however. There's a big

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

Jim Devine wrote: Obviously, these are important indicia, but it's up to the people involved (the Mainlanders, the Taiwanese) to decide how distinct they are, in a democratic way. One thing that should be noted is that Taiwan has a Formosan (non-Han) population that the PRC lacks. The history

[PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

What who are you advising on a position to take ? The indigenous folks Jim Craven was advising ? If so , seems best advice is stay out of it, as Jim said. Taiwan is not really claiming to have derived from some separate kinbased, hunting and gathering/horticultural society than China as the

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Jim Devine writes: To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons. The thing is that almost all Chinese living on the mainland (and almost half in Taiwan?) don't see China/Taiwan as separate national boundaries. They

[PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

(This is a response to a debate taking place on Marxmail about Taiwanese nationalism. Perry Anderson has a useful article on the question at: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26/n11/ande01_.html) When I was recently in northern B.C. in Canada on some Indigenous Reserves I was told by local activists that

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not looking forward to merging with the PRC labor market. Taiwan as indigenous or not seems to me a distraction from the fundamental issue, as far as Taiwan v. China goes. mbs To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

Carrol Cox wrote: I don't see why anyone needs any opinion whatsoever about Taiwan China. Yeah, they're so far away, and the people speak funny languages!