[PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-20 Thread Charles Brown
But how do you know we're not already living in the Matrix? Kelley CB: Cus' I'm a ghost. :>)

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-18 Thread ravi
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 12:04 pm, Charles Brown wrote: > is there a reason why a network of computers cannot exhibit similar > characteristics? (and now we can link this thread to jimD's godel > one! ;-)). > > --ravi > > ^ > CB: So far, except in a Matrix fantasy, it takes extensive

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-17 Thread Eubulides
-Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Davies >But how do you know we're not already living in the Matrix? >Kelley The fact that the outside world appears outside my window reasonably reliably and does not turn blue and disappear for no appare

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-17 Thread Daniel Davies
>But how do you know we're not already living in the Matrix? >Kelley The fact that the outside world appears outside my window reasonably reliably and does not turn blue and disappear for no apparent reason, suggests to me that it is not run by any IT department known to man. dd

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-17 Thread Devine, James
> But how do you know we're not already living in the Matrix? > > Kelley If you paid attention, you'd know that we live in the Matrix already. ;-) Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-17 Thread lbo
At 12:04 PM 3/16/2005, Charles Brown wrote: is there a reason why a network of computers cannot exhibit similar characteristics? (and now we can link this thread to jimD's godel one! ;-)). --ravi ^ CB: So far, except in a Matrix fantasy, it takes extensive human mediation to plug comput

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-17 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, There are some interesting quotes from Steven Rose in the London Times about his new book (which is not currently published in the U.S. so I can't comment on directly). The interviewer makes this comment to start with; Interviewer, Steven Rose feels strongly about many thing

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-16 Thread Devine, James
In Robert Heinlein's "libertarian"-flavored THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS, the computer is so complex that it gains consciousness. (The utopia that results from the revolution is obstensibly utopian, but is secretly controlled by a cabal, including the computer.) Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

[PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-16 Thread Charles Brown
is there a reason why a network of computers cannot exhibit similar characteristics? (and now we can link this thread to jimD's godel one! ;-)). --ravi ^ CB: So far, except in a Matrix fantasy, it takes extensive human mediation to plug computers into culture. It's like chimps can lea

Re: [PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-15 Thread ravi
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 15:31 -0500, Charles Brown wrote: > The part of this metaphor that has whole people doing things in the thinking > part of the brain of an individual is actually very good. What distinguishes > human thinking from computers or other species brain activity is that humans > mind

[PEN-L] Lewontin reviews Steven Rose's latest book on the brain

2005-03-15 Thread Charles Brown
The part of this metaphor that has whole people doing things in the thinking part of the brain of an individual is actually very good. What distinguishes human thinking from computers or other species brain activity is that humans minds are a vast network of connections to other actual whole people