[PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela – what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Devine
On 6/2/07, raghu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Michael, A naive question: on the face of it, cancelling licenses of unfriendly TV stations does sound like a suppression of free expression. What is the background to this? Was this decision taken in a democratic way? Thanks. here are some letters

[PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela – what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Devine
On 6/3/07, David B. Shemano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On pages 16-20 of Capitalism and Freedom, which I am sure all of you have on your bedstands, ... I only read it for the pictures... -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) -- Ka

[PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread sartesian
Yes, and as the free marketeers of the Chicago School, Friedman's offspring, showed us in Chile, capitalism has no difficulty preserving dissent and dissenters... in formaldehyde, in concrete overcoats, and at the bottom of the Pacific. Let me just add, the Pinochet coup was entirely predictab

[PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela – what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread raghu
On 6/2/07, michael a. lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Raghu, Firstly, there was no cancellation. Rather, this station (which was an active participant in the coup, going so far as to tape a day in advance of a march in 2002 an announcement by military leaders of deaths in that ma

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela – what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread michael a. lebowitz
At 11:39 03/06/2007, jim wrote: here are some letters to the editor of the L.A. TIMES that seem relevant: Re "Chavez didn't start this media war," Opinion, May 30 People such as Bart Jones are willing to embrace tyrants as long as these tyrants speak against the U.S. government. SNIP GUS

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread steve houston
You meant its not the heat, just the humanity ;) --- sartesian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, and as the free marketeers of the Chicago > School, Friedman's offspring, showed us in Chile, > capitalism has no difficulty preserving dissent and > dissenters... in formaldehyde, in concrete > overc

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Michael Perelman
They are called the Chicago boys, but some of my classmates from Berkeley did dispicable things. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Devine
UCB sent a hit squad to Indonesia, no? On 6/3/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They are called the Chicago boys, but some of my classmates from Berkeley did dispicable things. -- Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way and let people talk.) --

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Not from my Department. Our thugs came courtesy of the Ford Fdn. -- you know that left wing foundation; but these guys were worthy of the earlier Ford's Harry Bennett of the Ford Sociological Department. Gene Coyle knows about the Asian scandal. On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:34:03PM -0700, Jim Dev

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread Jim Devine
was Lovell Jarvis, Jr. involved? On 6/3/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not from my Department. Our thugs came courtesy of the Ford Fdn. -- you know that left wing foundation; but these guys were worthy of the earlier Ford's Harry Bennett of the Ford Sociological Department. Ge

Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela – what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Hi Raghu, You clearly have to read the concluding chapter of Build it Now! >:-} The short answer is that immediately after the coup, Chavez was very conciliatory because he wasn't certain about the depth of support in the military. After the bosses' general lockout, he was much more confid

[PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Venezuela - what it means and how to defeat it

2007-06-03 Thread sartesian
Jeez-- guy really knows how to abuse a metaphor, doesn't he? - Original Message - From: michael a. lebowitz To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] Re: [PEN-L] The current counter-revolutionary offensive in Vene