Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner From Zimbabwe

2006-12-12 Thread Rui Correia
-Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of soula avramidis Sent: 12 December 2006 08:53 To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner From Zimbabawe a student from Harare who says the internet will not go far

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner From Zimbabwe

2006-12-12 Thread soula avramidis
Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of soula avramidis Sent: 12 December 2006 08:53 To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner From Zimbabawe a student from Harare who says the internet will not go far: Certainly

[PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner From Zimbabawe

2006-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
a student from Harare who says the internet will not go far: Certainly an interesting expose. What Loren Goldner asserts happened to Japan, as its reserves got reduced by 32%, and contends, China is likely to go through and see its owed loans and reserves reduced as it devalues to the

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-11 Thread soula avramidis
another response from Africa Interesting. If this is all true, that I find interesting is the fact that then this is all planned, well thought out. The problem for me and what frustrates and exasperates me is that Africans are not planning, neither are we engaged in long range thinking. We

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-04 Thread soula avramidis
In my reading on imperialism few, not several decades ago, there were three main texts provided: Bukharin, Luxembourg and Lenin. The point of departure of Lenin from the rest was in fact that military aggression i.e. the fifth analytical facet of imperialism was central to how the practice of

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-04 Thread soula avramidis
Just forgot to add lenin's definition of imperiliasm is more a theory of war. This is certainly better than cultural explanations of war. the worst racist comments that come out of imperilaist prolocutor is that these 'tribes hated each other for a long time.' Shakesperiam deus ex machina hate

[PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-03 Thread Michael Perelman
- Forwarded message from Loren Goldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 07:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: Loren Goldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Request Dear Michael, A couple of days ago on another list an Italian comrade suggested that not merely Lenin's

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-03 Thread Jim Devine
I'm not going to quibble with the details, but there's a key point that needs to be emphasized. It's true that Lenin's theory of imperialism was seriously flawed, but he was right that imperialism is a social system of power and not (as Kautsky maintained) merely a policy of government backed by

Re: [PEN-L] question on imperialism from Loren Goldner

2006-12-03 Thread Louis Proyect
At 10:19 PM 12/3/2006, you wrote: That, to me, is THE question today which the theoreticians, still working off the Leninist model of anti-imperialism have to answer. How much longer can the international left be offering critical support' or military support to the Taliban before it finds