[PEN-L] spam

2004-11-27 Thread Michael Perelman
I was just looking at an article on MaxSpeak by Tom Walker regarding spam. It raises the question for me. Advertising is considered legitimate enterprise. Spam is not. Pop-up ads are considered legitimate. Lots of advertising annoys me. What is the difference between spam and advertising?

[PEN-L] spam!

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Devine
for some reason, when I look at the Spam file on g-mail (Google Mail), Google gives me a link to recipes that involve the use of Spam. Is it Google that has the sense of humor? or Hormel, the makers of Spam? -- Jim Devine / "There can be no real individual freedom in the presence of economic insecu

[PEN-L] Spam wars

2007-07-30 Thread Louis Proyect
New Yorker Magazine Annals of Technology Damn Spam The losing war on junk e-mail. by Michael Specter August 6, 2007 In the spring of 1978, an energetic marketing man named Gary Thuerk wanted to let people in the technology world know that his company, the Digital Equipment Corporation, was abou

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-27 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was just looking at an article on MaxSpeak by Tom Walker regarding spam. It raises the question for me. Advertising is considered legitimate enterprise. Spam is not. Pop-up ads are considered legitimate. Lots of adverti

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-28 Thread Tom Walker
What is the difference between spam and advertising? advertising = A spam = S capital = C A - S = C In terms of direct contribution to the GDP, the difference is about $200 billion a year. Plus, advertising would have a far heftier multiplier. Thomas Carlyle had a delightful vignette in Past an

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-28 Thread Ann_Li
- Original Message - From: "Tom Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] spam > What is the difference between spam and advertising? > > advertising = A > spam = S > capital = C >

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-28 Thread Devine, James
Michael Perelman writes: > Advertising is considered legitimate enterprise. Spam is not. Pop-up ads are considered legitimate. Lots of advertising annoys me. What is the difference between spam and advertising?< one thing is that ads on TV are often seen as the "price" of broadcast TV, which

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Why do you think traditional ads would have a higher multiplier? Also, with respect to Jim's comment, cost of the ads on tv or in the paper are passed on to purchasers, who become convinced that Tom W.'s hat has more utils. On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 07:06:50AM -0800, Tom Walker wrote: > What i

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-29 Thread Tom Walker
I'm playing fast and loose with the term 'multiplier'. In this case, I'm not just thinking of the economic activity that results from spending the revenues generated by advertising but I have in mind both the purposes of the advertising to stimulate greater purchasing (at higher prices) and also in

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-29 Thread Gassler Robert
Sounds more like tax burden than multiplier. >I'm playing fast and loose with the term 'multiplier'. In this case, I'm not > >just thinking of the economic activity that results from spending the >revenues generated by advertising but I have in mind both the purposes of >the advertising to stimula

Re: [PEN-L] spam

2004-11-30 Thread Tom Walker
Robert Gassler wrote, Sounds more like tax burden than multiplier. Yes, it is like a tax, especially since the programming is carried on public airwaves under licence from the state.

[PEN-L] spam scams

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Perelman
The Sacramento Bee published an article on Nigerian scam aritists today bu Dulue Mbachu. It is not on their web site. The auther goes & talks with the scammers, who seem to be well educated young men who cannot get jobs, suggesting once again the relationship between unemployment & social ills.

Re: [PEN-L] spam!

2006-03-15 Thread ravi
At around 15/3/06 12:47 pm, Jim Devine wrote: > for some reason, when I look at the Spam file on g-mail (Google Mail), > Google gives me a link to recipes that involve the use of Spam. Is it > Google that has the sense of humor? or Hormel, the makers of Spam? > -- I doubt its Hormel -- they sued t

Re: [PEN-L] spam!

2006-03-15 Thread Walt Byars
But, most of the spam emails don't contain that word in their bodies or titles. Of course, the layout google has for the spam folder contains the word "spam" a number of times, but I thought the ads were based on the words contained in the actual emails. > I doubt its Hormel -- they sued to prote

Re: [PEN-L] spam!

2006-03-15 Thread ravi
At around 15/3/06 5:25 pm, Walt Byars wrote: > But, most of the spam emails don't contain that word in their bodies or > titles. Of course, the layout google has for the spam folder contains the > word "spam" a number of times, but I thought the ads were based on the > words contained in the actua

Re: [PEN-L] spam!

2006-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
Today, I discovered that G-mail's "Trash" folder includes "tips on recycling" such as "You can make a lovely hat out of previously-used aluminum foil." This suggests that the spam recipes in G-mail's spam folder are G-mail's joke. On 3/15/06, ravi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At around 15/3/06 5:

Re: [PEN-L] spam scams

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Devine
speaking of unemployment, the problem of the oversupply of educated (male) workers relative to demand in poor countries is also a contributing cause to the rise of terrorism in the Arab world, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc. On 8/7/05, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to be a nice

Re: [PEN-L] spam scams

2005-08-07 Thread Michael Perelman
Absolutely! But not just terrorism, but fundamentalism. Just as in the US, I suspect that the bifurcated economy has contributed to the rise of religion. The winners think that God has chosen them; the losers seek refuge. So much for my brief foray into sociology! On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 10:

Re: [PEN-L] spam scams

2005-08-07 Thread Jim Devine
On 8/7/05, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely! But not just terrorism, but fundamentalism. Just as in the US, I > suspect that the bifurcated economy has contributed to the rise of religion. > The > winners think that God has chosen them; the losers seek refuge. So much f

[PEN-L] Spam Spam Spam Spam

2006-09-04 Thread Leigh Meyers
Doug Henwood trolls Yoshie: On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:22 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: I posted an interesting NYT article on China's rising production costs (stagflation, anyone?), a new study (the first of its kind?), by economist Robert Kaestner, on the impact of anti-Arab/anti-Muslim prejudice on