Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:23:57 -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: > >if win32 select does work for listen and regular, would that make it >easier to port event.pm and/or perl/tk events? > >can someone get a definitive answer on this? i am now very curious as >well as anxious to find out. :) POE's plain sele

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 09:19:19PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tk needs to call the thing from C mostly, and has a lot of weird little > corners. (And when I was "interested" Event wasn't stable, now it is > I have other things top of my interest pile.) i don't blame you. We're all vic

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Lidie
Uri Guttman wrote: > > > "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > NI> Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> select on listen sockets is critical for event loops. i trust nick's > >> experience here. > > NI> _I_ don't. Older Tk's used select() 'cos the Win32

Re: CORBA

2000-11-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 04:17:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > as for corba, stem allows message passing between objects (and messages > can carry objects if you want) so it will be a simpler form of corba. Well and good, but what i need presently is *compatibility* with CORBA. -- May the

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Lidie
Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > > Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "SL" == Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > SL> Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > > >> > > >> Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > > > >> >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: NI> Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> select on listen sockets is critical for event loops. i trust nick's >> experience here. NI> _I_ don't. Older Tk's used select() 'cos the Win32 port was NI> basically just a clon

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:57:46PM -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: >> It depends how much abstraction you want. There is little overlap >> between the two. Event is mostly a programmer friendly wrapper around >> stdio/PerlIO. stdio/PerlIO are mostl

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "SL" == Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SL> Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > >> > >> Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > > >> >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 > >> >sockets. > >> > >> H

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "JNP" == Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JNP> Also, i shouldn't neglect to mention that a major goal for Event JNP> is to be the common API to which event driven modules/libraries JNP> are written. still, i wrapped my object code around event.pm for several reasons. fir

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:57:46PM -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > It depends how much abstraction you want. There is little overlap > between the two. Event is mostly a programmer friendly wrapper around > stdio/PerlIO. stdio/PerlIO are mostly C APIs. Also, i shouldn't neglect to mention th

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 07:14:50PM +, Graham Barr wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:52:49PM -0500, Steve Lidie wrote: > > Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > > > > > > Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 > > >

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Graham Barr
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 12:52:49PM -0500, Steve Lidie wrote: > Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > > > > Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 > > >sockets. > > > > Hmm, even for listen sockets? > > Now you've got me

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "SL" == Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SL> Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: >> >> Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 >> >sockets. >> >> Hmm, even for listen sockets? SL> Now you've got

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 05:26:06PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >would it be > >better to work from event.pm or from perlio as a base? > > I have not looked at guts of Event.pm (i.e. Event.xs) in a while. It depends how much abstraction you want.

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 >sockets. Hmm, even for listen sockets? >Perhaps Tk::Event could be used for everything else. -- Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Via, but not speaking for: Texas Instrume

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > NI> The Tk event loop works (after a fashion) on Win32 and is a > NI> self-contained XS module Tk::Event (Tk uses Tk::Event rather than > NI> vice versa). The snag is that 'fileevent' is se

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Lidie
Nick Ing-Simmons wrote: > > Steve Lidie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >Preliminary testing shows that Perl's native select() works OK on Win32 > >sockets. > > Hmm, even for listen sockets? Now you've got me didn't try that.

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Steve Lidie
Uri Guttman wrote: > > > "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > NI> The Tk event loop works (after a fashion) on Win32 and is a > NI> self-contained XS module Tk::Event (Tk uses Tk::Event rather than > NI> vice versa). The snag is that 'fileevent' is seriously flawed

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Uri Guttman
> "NI" == Nick Ing-Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: NI> The Tk event loop works (after a fashion) on Win32 and is a NI> self-contained XS module Tk::Event (Tk uses Tk::Event rather than NI> vice versa). The snag is that 'fileevent' is seriously flawed on NI> Win32 - e.g. you can

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Uri Guttman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >nick and/or joshua, > >what is the possibility of a win2k/nt event loop that i could use for >stem? i have a potential customer with many unix boxes but unfortunately >redmond also is in the picture. joshua has stated it wouldn't be too >hard (??) to move e

Re: redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:26:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > any comments or thoughts are welcome here. condolences are welcome > too. i wanted to keep stem a pure unix system for a while but if this > big potential customer buys in, i have to support redmond asap. For what it's worth, i'

redmond event loop

2000-11-30 Thread Uri Guttman
nick and/or joshua, what is the possibility of a win2k/nt event loop that i could use for stem? i have a potential customer with many unix boxes but unfortunately redmond also is in the picture. joshua has stated it wouldn't be too hard (??) to move event.pm to winblows. what about the perl/tk e