Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread chromatic
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 14:19 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Is this associated with the recent versions of TH that attempt to capture > STDERR? I redid that patch, removing that dubious feature, and I think Andy applied the second version. T::H::S now interprets any diagnostics and associates

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread David Wheeler
On Feb 24, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Is this associated with the recent versions of TH that attempt to capture STDERR? No, all my patch did was turn off buffering in the same way that Test::Builder does. Regards, David

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:05:13PM -0800, David Wheeler wrote: > >The way Test::Builder works, diagnostics always go to STDERR. Is there > >a reason for this beyond "It's tricky to correlate diagnostics to the > >appropriate test numbers"? (I agree with that, but I'm willing to take > >my chances

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:42:57PM -0800, chromatic wrote: > The TAP documentation in 2.47_01 says: > > A harness must only read TAP output from standard output and not from > standard error. > > The way Test::Builder works, diagnostics always go to STDERR. Is there > a reason for this bey

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:48:59AM -0500, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Agreed. IMO the TAP protocol should confine itself to a single > (arbitrary) data stream. It shouldn't even specify STDOUT; > leaving that as an implementation detail makes the protocol more > useful (ie., we should be able to commu

Re: Phalanxing MakeMaker

2005-02-24 Thread Ken Williams
On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:08 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: For any brave Phalanx folks who wish to target MakeMaker I can point you at some critically deficient areas of its testing. 1) XS. There is absolutely no testing of XS code. The primary problem is determining if the user has a working buil

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > we should be able to communicate TAP via HTTP, SMTP, etc.). TAP::Lite anyone? /me ducks ;) --Geoff

Re: TAP and STDERR

2005-02-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wheeler) writes: > On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:42 PM, chromatic wrote: > >> The way Test::Builder works, diagnostics always go to STDERR. Is there >> a reason for this beyond "It's tricky to correlate diagnostics to the >> appropriate test numbers"? (I agree with that, but I'm

Phalanxing MakeMaker

2005-02-24 Thread Michael G Schwern
For any brave Phalanx folks who wish to target MakeMaker I can point you at some critically deficient areas of its testing. 1) XS. There is absolutely no testing of XS code. The primary problem is determining if the user has a working build chain. I think Module::Build has code to do this and