Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-15 Thread David Cantrell
H.Merijn Brand wrote: Just only today I hit an M$Access database with a table named `./onderw`.`"Bus"; "Taxi"; "Auto"` My mail client inexplicably just quit. I assume because it was so disgusted. -- David Cantrell

[ANNOUNCE] Test::Legacy 1.2501

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Legacy/trunk or svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Legacy/trunk or http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Legacy-1.2501.tar.gz or a CPAN near you. Test::Legacy is a Test.pm work-alike. It strives to emulate Test.pm as closely as possible. The difference is it us

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Orton, Yves
> http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > or > svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > or > http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz > or > a CPAN near you. Should the t/fork.t tests should still be skipped on Win32? Win32 Perl has been able to fork since at lea

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Orton, Yves
> Yves Orton wrote: > > >>http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > >>or > >>svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > >>or > >>http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz > >>or > >>a CPAN near you. > >> > >> > > > >Should the t/fork.t tests should still be skipped on

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Hay
Orton, Yves wrote: >>http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk >>or >>svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk >>or >>http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz >>or >>a CPAN near you. >> >> > >Should the t/fork.t tests should still be skipped on Win32? Win32 Perl ha

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Orton, Yves
> Not quite. I'm saying: "Unless you need fork you're probably > better off using a perl without PERL_IMPLICIT_SYS" [on Win32, > obviously]. There's no problem with having ithreads enabled; > it's PERL_IMPLICIT_SYS that requires perl's malloc to be disabled. Got it. Ok, sorry to be so thick.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Andrew Savige
Steve Hay wrote: > And this program (500,000 small extensions to a string): > > my $a = ''; > my $start = time; > for my $i (1 .. 50) { > print "$i\n" if $i % 1000 == 0; > $a .= '.' x 20; > } > printf "OK (%d seconds)\n", time - $start; > > is even worse: 1 second again on 5.8.6/perl-malloc

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 01:06:36PM -, Orton, Yves wrote: > Primary key fingerprint: B484 04B8 E9D5 93A2 5CA8 F1AA 4F82 E2DC 2C3F > 3F34 > ==> SKIPPED CHECKING 'Makefile'! (run Makefile.PL to ensure its integrity) > <=== Ok, talked to Autrijus. But what's that "SKIPPED CHECKING" th

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-15 Thread Shawn Boyette
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:10:51 +0100, H.Merijn Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes. Ditch emacs. It knows only the *wrong* styles. > Way to totally make a cogent argument. Next I suppose we'll hear about how the Sun compilers totally pwn gcc2. -- Shawn Boyette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

need help

2004-12-15 Thread Subbarayan, Sridhar
Hi, I am urgently in need of some study material that deals with using perl in QA process. How is functionality testing done using perl. How is performance testing done using perl. How does perl help in automation. Please give some examples. Please let me know if there are any books or tutors th

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-15 Thread Kevin Scaldeferri
On Dec 14, 2004, at 2:10 PM, H.Merijn Brand wrote: On Tue 14 Dec 2004 21:49, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's what I have to say about clever bracing/spacing styles. Your bracing/spacing style should not be a detriment. It should not be a limitation. If common editors have trou

[ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk or svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk or http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz or a CPAN near you. This release is mostly all minor Test::Builder bugs exposed by writing Test::Legacy. There are two things of note. *

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 12:23:46PM -, Orton, Yves wrote: > > http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > > or > > svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > > or > > http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz > > or > > a CPAN near you. > > Should the t/fork.t tests

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54

2004-12-15 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Michael G Schwern wrote: > http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > or > svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk > or > http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz > or > a CPAN near you. Thanks, bleadperl upgraded (as change #23654).

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Hay
Orton, Yves wrote: >>Yves Orton wrote: >> >> >> http://svn.schwern.org/svn/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk or svn://svn.schwern.org/CPAN/Test-Simple/trunk or http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.54.tar.gz or a CPAN near you. >>>Should

Re: Uncle Bob on Coding Standards

2004-12-15 Thread Adam Turoff
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 14:21:40 -0800, Kevin Scaldeferri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2004, at 2:10 PM, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > > Yes. Ditch emacs. It knows only the *wrong* styles. > > uh... yeah... okay. You realize elisp is Turing-complete, right? Um, yeah. Right. My cat is Turing

RE: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Orton, Yves
> Your patch needs to account for PERL_IMPLICIT_SYS too like > t/op/fork.t does, as Schwern just pointed out. Ok, ill look into that test to see how it works. > I should have mentioned that rather than just "ithreads" in my mail. > PERL_IMPLCIT_SYS is, in fact, also the reason that I don't bu

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Hay
Orton, Yves wrote: >>Your patch needs to account for PERL_IMPLICIT_SYS too like >>t/op/fork.t does, as Schwern just pointed out. >> >> > >Ok, ill look into that test to see how it works. > > > >>I should have mentioned that rather than just "ithreads" in my mail. >>PERL_IMPLCIT_SYS is, in

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple/More/Builder 0.54 (problem with signa ture?)

2004-12-15 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 01:06:36PM -, Orton, Yves wrote: > Also Schwern, ive been trying to get it to build from the zip file linked > above. The first time I build i get the following test failure: > > t\00signature.WARNING: This key is not certified with a > trusted signature!