Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread John van V
Giving talks at YAPC is a no brainer, and I see the criteria of creating public documents and the existance of a deadline being exceeding good things. Documenting the knowlege and preventing the authors from obfuscating the documents (by accident, of course) will generate far to much noise

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Nathan Torkington
John van V writes: If perl.org is unacceptable for some reason I can easily create a mailing list on puny.vm.org Thanks for the offer, but I don't think we'll need it. I think we're hampered right now by the fact that we don't know much about what perl6 is going to look like. Until we get

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 02:39 PM 1/12/01 -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: John van V writes: If perl.org is unacceptable for some reason I can easily create a mailing list on puny.vm.org Thanks for the offer, but I don't think we'll need it. I think we're hampered right now by the fact that we don't know much

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread John van V
The dual license is already such a compromise. What's wrong with the dual licensing scheme? Ok, I'm learning here, please send me the link. Well, this obviously isn't true in general since Perl is a project to create a programming language and GNU is a project to create an operating

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Ben Tilly
"John van V" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dual license is already such a compromise. What's wrong with the dual licensing scheme? Ok, I'm learning here, please send me the link. Ships with Perl. Perl is copyrighted and the copyright holders say you can use their copyrighted code under

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Simon Cozens
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 05:11:56PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: Barring anyone else doing it, I should go to YAPC and talk about perl 6's guts, at least the bits available at that point. TPC too. ('Course, there's the question of getting there, but that's a separate issue) Well, if you can't,

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread David Grove
"Ben Tilly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "John van V" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this the ~only~ obvious thing here. What I just learned from the GNU/FSF/UWIN/MinGW issue is that perl ~is~ legally defined as an operating system. Defined by who? I am curious here. I believe,

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Ben Tilly
"David Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Ben Tilly" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "John van V" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this the ~only~ obvious thing here. What I just learned from the GNU/FSF/UWIN/MinGW issue is that perl ~is~ legally defined as an operating system.

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread David Grove
You know having you not have a clue who you are talking to is getting really annoying. Hello David, my name is Ben Tilly. I am the guy who flamed Tom Christiansen on p5p [...] In any case if you want action on that it is better to start by saying that and not take threads that are

Re: We should have some YAPC talks on Perl 6

2001-01-12 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert
I've got one ready to go on the topic of "Perl 6: the story so far". I'm presenting it next week at linux.conf.au and would be happy to submit it for YAPC and/or TPC. K.

Re: licensing issues

2001-01-12 Thread Russ Allbery
David Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, on debian.org, there's an essay that says that they are currently "using" the linux kernel until a totally GNU one is created. I've been doing some homework while watching these posts. (Which is also why I now understand why I could never completely