Re: Per-object inheritance in core a red herring?

2001-06-30 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 04:54 PM 6/29/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:50:55AM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > Besides, there are languages that do this on a per-object basis all the > > time anyway (aren't there? I think there are) in which case it makes sense > > to yank it into the co

Re: Per-object inheritance in core a red herring?

2001-06-30 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 07:12 PM 6/29/2001 -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: >Please look at Class::Object before responding. URL below. > > >On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 06:36:31PM -0400, John Porter wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > "Any sufficiently encapsulated hack is no longer a hack." > > > > Who said that?

Re: The Perl 6 Emulator (made easier)

2001-06-30 Thread Simon Cozens
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 04:06:10PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > http://simon-cozens.org/hacks/perl6.tar.gz More examples, strict.pm, and *finally* support for properties. A modified version of Damian's binary tree program from the exegesis is included. Now you can do some *real* Perl 6 hacki

Re: [OT] Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread Me
All, of course, imho: > Were something dreadful to happen to Larry and his estate chose to > change the licensing terms of the current *implementation* Well they can only do that to a copy of their own, not existing copies. While the law isn't clear on a lot of nuances related to more complex o

Re: [OT] Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Stephen Zander [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>Speaking as someone with feet firmly in both camps (I'm a Blackdown *>member and the Debian maintainer for the jdk and some of the largest *>perl modules in that distribution), IMNSHO the fatal assumption made *>by millions of people is that Java is O

Re: [OT] Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread schwern
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 01:49:45PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: > Perl's great blessing is also it's great curse; there's a single > implementation and that *implementation* happens to be OpenSource. > Try writing a second Perl implementation from scratch. Fortunately, we don't have to. :) Perl

Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread schwern
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 11:57:42AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > If Java sucks to install on some boutique/niche platforms it > could mean that a) noone has told them about the issues I can't even conceive they're not accutely aware. > b) noone in the FreeBSD/Linux world has taken it upon

Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Adam Turoff [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>This is the issue in a nutshell. Let's not mix business issues *>with technical ones. Let's not mix cluster management with simple *>end-user installation. Let's not mix businesses losing millions *>by the microsecond with the guy who just wants his l

Re: Per-object inheritance in core a red herring?

2001-06-30 Thread Peter Scott
At 04:20 AM 6/30/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 01:47:39AM -0600, Dan Brian wrote: > > > Everyone's making these assumptions, WHY WON'T ANYONE LOOK AT > > > CLASS::OBJECT?! > > > > It might not work, Schwern. And even if it did, it might be really slow. > > Somebody sh

Re: Perl Doesn't Suck

2001-06-30 Thread Adam Turoff
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 05:20:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's the trick, Solaris is Sun's Blessed Platform. As a > Linux/PowerPC user, I know how Ziggy feels. I'm almost totally > ignored by Sun and I'd imagine I'd have just as much trouble getting > it working as he did. This is

Re: Per-object inheritance in core a red herring?

2001-06-30 Thread schwern
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 01:47:39AM -0600, Dan Brian wrote: > > > Having it in the core, in C[++], would be that much more efficient, > > > and that much less of a hack. Maybe the tradeoff is that it > > > wouldn't work. :-) > > > > Everyone's making these assumptions, WHY WON'T ANYONE LOOK AT >

Re: Perl 6 proof-of-concept page

2001-06-30 Thread Marcel Grunauer
On Friday, June 29, 2001, at 10:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: >> Additions and suggestion for the page are welcome, please send them to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Well, its not yet know if any of this will make it into Perl 6, bu

Re: Per-object inheritance in core a red herring?

2001-06-30 Thread Dan Brian
> > Having it in the core, in C[++], would be that much more efficient, > > and that much less of a hack. Maybe the tradeoff is that it > > wouldn't work. :-) > > Everyone's making these assumptions, WHY WON'T ANYONE LOOK AT > CLASS::OBJECT?! It might not work, Schwern. And even if it did, it