Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:36 PM
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:36:02PM +0300, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
> > > Famous last words: "Our data is perfect, we don't need to check our
> > inputs."
> >
> > Yes. Our data is perfect and we don't need to check
Hi,
I built a fresh CVS parrot with garbage collection and linked parrot
and imcc against Electric Fence. A few tests failed. The (edited)
results are here:
http://www.technolalia.com/~ndronen/test-with-gc.txt
I don't think the mmap failures are important; I suspect they're induced
by
At Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:41:46 -0400,
Bryan C. Warnock wrote:
> Has it been two years already?
Apparently so.
(Hmm.. we should really fix the FAQ.)
If the pdd is amended, let's not forget to update the check_source script-
for that matter, if there are any other items that should be added
(perhaps some specific checks for the embedding headers), let me know-
I'll be happy to add them.
--Josh
At 18:57 on 09/11/2003 BST, Nicholas Clark <[E
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:36:02PM +0300, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
> > Famous last words: "Our data is perfect, we don't need to check our
> inputs."
>
> Yes. Our data is perfect and we don't need to check our inputs if we
> play by rules. And the rules are:
>
> Always use concat_dirnames to conca
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:46:26AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So basically you can't trust is_deeply, eq_array or eq_hash to compare
> arrays or hashes.
>
> Yes the precise details should be on rt.cpan.org but if it was worth noting
> that "Display of scalar refs is not quite 100%" in the d
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:44:05PM -0700, Brent Dax wrote:
> Dan Sugalski:
> # > (Who do I score the U-turn on page 93 to?)
> #
> # Don't have it handy. Which U-turn is that?
>
> Presumably, "Coroutines can be implemented in terms of continuations if
> need be, but that requires using a full cont
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Brent Dax wrote:
> Dan Sugalski:
> # Ah. That one's the collective fault of the denizens of the Little
> # Languages mailing list and the MIT Lisp and/or Scheme folks.
>
> Oh, and in case it wasn't abundantly clear before, I already picked up a
> copy--a month or so ago, whil
Dan Sugalski:
# Ah. That one's the collective fault of the denizens of the Little
# Languages mailing list and the MIT Lisp and/or Scheme folks.
Oh, and in case it wasn't abundantly clear before, I already picked up a
copy--a month or so ago, while I was on vacation and needed something to
read du
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Brent Dax wrote:
> Dan Sugalski:
> # > (Who do I score the U-turn on page 93 to?)
> #
> # Don't have it handy. Which U-turn is that?
>
> Presumably, "Coroutines can be implemented in terms of continuations if
> need be, but that requires using a full continuation-passing fun
Dan Sugalski:
# > (Who do I score the U-turn on page 93 to?)
#
# Don't have it handy. Which U-turn is that?
Presumably, "Coroutines can be implemented in terms of continuations if
need be, but that requires using a full continuation-passing function
call system, something we chose not to do."
--
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 03:16:15PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> > And it's your job, if you choose to accept it, to help make it horribly
> > out-of-date. :)
>
> Are there going to be (booby) prizes for the people who make the most
> paragraphs obsole
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Melvin Smith wrote:
> I do have an older version of Borland that I can mail you, but I think it
> is at least 2 releases old
> As for Microsoft I can't help with a license, but I can probably get us
> one for IBM Visual Age.
I may be able to scare up media and license fro
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 03:16:15PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
> And it's your job, if you choose to accept it, to help make it horribly
> out-of-date. :)
Are there going to be (booby) prizes for the people who make the most
paragraphs obsolete? Is anyone counting?
(Who do I score the U-turn on pa
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Melvin Smith wrote:
> Eep, I was too busy poking fun at Dan about the book I forgot to say:
>
> 1) I do not represent IBM nor IBM's preferences for development
> environment, I was just guessing.
> You are welcome to add IBM Visual Age stuff in there, let me know if
>
I do have an older version of Borland that I can mail you, but I think it
is at least 2 releases old
As for Microsoft I can't help with a license, but I can probably get us
one for IBM Visual Age.
I assume you have a lot of disk space?
Doesn't Borland have some sort of free download version th
Eep, I was too busy poking fun at Dan about the book I forgot to say:
1) I do not represent IBM nor IBM's preferences for development
environment, I was just guessing.
You are welcome to add IBM Visual Age stuff in there, let me know if
you need a license. :)
2) The P6E book was well done,
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Melvin Smith wrote:
> Based on current customers I would guess the following in priority:
>
> VC/C++ (latest non-.NET version, most people I know are still building
> their stuff with Pre-.NET versions)
> Visual Studio .NET
> Cygwin
> Borland C++ Builder
I don't have VC/C++
Based on current customers I would guess the following in priority:
VC/C++ (latest non-.NET version, most people I know are still building
their stuff with Pre-.NET versions)
Visual Studio .NET
Cygwin
Borland C++ Builder
I love Borland but I have to put it last because I think the 1st 3 covers
(Note: I originally meant to send this message to the list, but
accidentally hit the wrong "Reply" button. Sorry if this messes up your
mailer's threading.)
Arthur Bergman:
# Is there any documentation, or code I can read to figure out how use
# PMCs in embedded mode? I tried to just include parr
I'm about done setting up the TPF Win32 tinderbox machine. It's a WinXP
Pro gadget with Visual Studio .NET. I'm going to install cygwin as well.
I'll be setting up tinderboxes for it but, honestly, I don't do windows
programming, so I'm not particularly sure what'd be useful. I'm going to
try a
Arthur Bergman:
# This gets rid of the very annoying long double might change warning
# under Darwin...
Thanks, applied (config/init/hints/darwin.pl version 1.7).
However, can you see if the diff below my sig (applied against 1.7, not
1.6) works too? If so, it's probably a more appropriate place
"Vladimir Lipskiy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> static INTVAL
> PIO_win32_getblksize(PIOHANDLE fd)
> {
>
> those indentifiers had internal linkage. Bi-bi. Fixed.
Thanks applied.
boe
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> >
>
> >> Imcc is still lacking full integration inside Parrot. To accomplish
> >> this, we would need these steps:
>
> >>
> >>- rebuild and commit directory structure $Parrot_Roo
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
If you observe the rules, you won't get into a mess.
I'm not convinced "If you don't have users, you won't get into a mess"
is a workable design goal for library code.
-- c
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 09:30:29PM +0300, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
> to document the idea of Juergen Bommels to include the
>
> extern "C" {
>
I take it you meant the full game:
#ifdef __cplusplus
extern "C" {
#endif
> specification () in each header in pdd7_codingstd, no body had replied),
>
- Original Message -
From: "Arthur Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: Embedding interface to PMCs
> Hi,
>
> Is there any documentation, or code I can read to figure out how use
> PMCs in embedded m
Hi,
This gets rid of the very annoying long double might change warning
under darwin, the warning comes from my config.h which has
typedef long double HUGEFLOATVAL;
Arthur
Index: config/init/hints/darwin.pl
===
RCS file: /cvs/publ
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why wouldn't appending no filename onto a directory result in the
directory
> being returned? Unless append_filename() guarantees that it will always
> return a filepath ending in a filename?
Yes. And it guarantees to return a "", when you do someth
Hi,
Is there any documentation, or code I can read to figure out how use
PMCs in embedded mode? I tried to just include parrot/parrot.h in sv.c
but that results in a million (or so ;) errors, so using parrot/embed
would be nice. (it looks like it isn't finished yet, so it is more a
question of
--- Andrew Savige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, that 'grind' looks like a very handy command but I'm a bit
> confused about how you use it. Is it just a handy general-purpose
> command or do you use it specifically as part of "make test" in
> your CPAN distributions?
It's a utility that I w
Arthur Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aha, that explains it, I assumed that genclass produced something that
> was correct, apparently it didn't :), fixed now and I withdraw my patch.
Ah, that explains it too. Sorry. Fixed genclass.pl - thanks.
(I'm almost always takint an existing similar
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 05:55 pm, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
From: Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:55:59 pm Europe/London
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Bergman)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Small test case exception for ponie
Reply-To: [EMAIL
Leopold Toetsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm currently investigating the AST (abstract syntax tree) interface for
> Parrot. For getting a feeling, how this could look like, I've
> implemented (some parts) of Yet Another Language (YAL).
I have put version yal-0.02 on my webpage. You can get it
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For us, teh equivalent would be returning a PerlInt if we find the
> result produces an integral value, and a PerlNum if it doesn't. (Assuming,
> of course, that the operation took place on two perl-style PMCs, as other
> languages may have different rules
> If they are to be documented anywhere it is in rt.cpan.org. The
Test::More
> documentation is not a bug tracking system.
> Sorry to be so troublesome about this, but as RFC 1925's Rule #1 states
> "It Has To Work".
But it doesn't work! The {} equals { key => []} bug even slightly harmless.
If
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 01:17:29PM +0300, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
> > Shouldn't that be "."?
> >
> > > append_filename("a", "") = ""
> >
> > "a"
>
> Umm. Don't think so. At least it will be that
> way until you convince me that it must be
> another way
concat_dirnames("a", "") = "a"
concat_dirn
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 05:31:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> And what about the 4 other BIG HONKING BUGS that those patches fixed? They
> shouldn't even be documented?
If they are to be documented anywhere it is in rt.cpan.org. The Test::More
documentation is not a bug tracking system.
I
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Subject:RE: puts(foot) on is_deeply() and overloading
> Jarkko, unless you get a fix from Fergal RSN, please reverse the
is_deeply()
> patch from Fergal in the core. I'll deal with the problem in the next
> ver
> Shouldn't that be "."?
>
> > append_filename("a", "") = ""
>
> "a"
Umm. Don't think so. At least it will be that
way until you convince me that it must be
another way
>
> What about
>
> append_filename("", "b") ?
>
> Would that be an error?
No. It's okay. I just forgot to mention that ca
Ovid wrote:
> I do something like the following to get this effect:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> use strict;
> use Test::Harness;
> use Getopt::Long;
> use Pod::Usage;
>
> GetOptions(
> 'help|?'=> sub { pod2usage(-verbose => 2); exit },
> 'verbose!' => \$Test::Harness::verbos
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:23:27AM +0300, Vladimir Lipskiy wrote:
> Unix et al
> ==
> append_filename(".", "") = ""
Shouldn't that be "."?
> append_filename("a", "") = ""
"a"
> append_filename("a", "b") = "a/b"
What about
append_filename("", "b") ?
Would that be an error?
Don't for
Has it been two years already?
--
Bryan C. Warnock
bwarnock@(gtemail.net|raba.com)
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