Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 10:03:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm not really interested in Perl at all. If all Parrot can do is allow me to write a languge that is basically Perl, then I'm not interested in Parrot either. To be fair, Uri did say and other dynamic languages. And I

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-28 Thread Melvin Smith
Well, I'm not really interested in Perl at all. If all Parrot can do is allow me to write a languge that is basically Perl, then I'm not interested in Parrot either. I think it may be a good idea to wait until the Parrot folks have their product and web site a little better documented and

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
Thanks to everyone for their information on Parrot. A couple more questions have come to mind. 1) Does Parrot support multiple inheritance? 2) Does Parrot support stack variables or is everything allocated on the heap? Thanks again. Dave

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
From what I've seen, supporting both garbage collection and true stack variables is a difficult task. Why is that? -Melvin Smith IBM :: Atlanta Innovation Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: 770-835-6984

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
On Friday 25 January 2002 13:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the nice example, except I understand the issue you are speaking of, I was basically asking what parts of it do you think are more difficult to implement than any other major construct? I believe the main difficulty

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Hong Zhang
I believe the main difficulty comes from heading into uncharted waters. For example, once you've decided to make garbage collection optional, what does the following line of code mean? delete x; If the above code is compiled to Parrot, it probably equivalent to x-~Destructor();

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread David . Leeper
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RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Hong Zhang
This changes the way a programmer writes code. A C++ class and function that uses the class looks like this: class A { public: A(){...grab some resources...} ~A(){...release the resources...} } void f() { A a; ... use a's resources ... } ...looks like this

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Dan Sugalski
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RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (A Few More Questions)

2002-01-25 Thread Melvin Smith
This is exactly the right way to do things in Java. In Java, you can open hundreds of files, and never trigger any gc, since each file object is very small. Unless you explicit close file, you will be dead very quickly. Although your point is taken, I think in this case it is the programmer who

How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread David . Leeper
I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few questions about Parrots capabilities. Will Parrot support templates (also known as generics)? Will Parrot support operator overloading? Do Parrot classes have constructors and destructors? Does Parrot have garbage

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Brent Dax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: # I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few # questions about Parrots capabilities. # #Will Parrot support templates (also known as generics)? If you mean like C++ templates, then the answer is that it's up to the language. There won't be

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread David . Leeper
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Re: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
[Brent's answered some of these already, but I'll fill in the blanks. Also some of the answers presume a fully-implemented engine, which we don't have yet] At 2:52 PM -0500 1/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few questions about

Re: How Powerful Is Parrot?

2002-01-24 Thread Bryan C. Warnock
On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching the Parrot development with interest and have a few questions about Parrots capabilities. Brent and Dan have already answered, so I'm going to be so foolish as to answer, too. Will Parrot support operator

RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? (fwd)

2002-01-24 Thread Josh Wilmes
Who is the keeper of the FAQ? This is gold. --Josh --- Forwarded Messages Date:Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:35:05 -0800 From:Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How Powerful Is Parrot? [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # I've been watching the Parrot