Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-27 Thread Chaim Frenkel
I wish I knew why you are discussing in -internals issue on this list. You should be specifying behaviour not how it is implemented. A mention of implementation is reasonable but _don't_ spend too much time. If Larry wants it. -internals will give it to him. Anyway, please recall that because of

Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-27 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Steven W McDougall wrote: Based on your examples, I have to assume that you are serious about RFC1v3 item 6: No offense, but I wouldn't have suggested it if I weren't serious. Misguided, perhaps. Joking, no. This is a non-starter for me. Right now, I am working on

Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-27 Thread Steven W McDougall
We could either discuss alternate approaches for RFC1, or I could submit a new RFC for a thread architecture that gives me the performance I want. Both are more than welcome. (If you want alternate approaches or counter-arguments to be fully documented, then doing both in an RFC would

Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-27 Thread Steven W McDougall
as in the non-threaded case, or do we get $global::{foo} - *global::foo - global::foo - { print 1 } $thread::{foo} - *thread::foo - thread::foo - { print 2 } Okay, I understand. Here's how I perceive it There is no global::foo, just two thread-specific foos. In which

Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-26 Thread Bryan C . Warnock
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Steven W McDougall wrote: However, the distinction between compile time and run time that it relies on doesn't exist in Perl. For example, if we chase through perlfunc.pod a bit, we find No? I'll admit that it may run through the compile and run modes multiple times, but

Re: Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-26 Thread Steven W McDougall
Users can (and do) write open code in modules. I don't understand. Do you think that needs to be prevented? No, I just want to know what happens when they do it. Let's look at an example. 1. Non-threaded #!/usr/local/bin/perl sub foo { print 1 } foo(); eval 'sub foo {

Threads and run time/compile time

2000-08-25 Thread Steven W McDougall
RFC1v3 says 5. Threads are a runtime construct only. Lexical scoping and compile issues are independent of any thread boundaries. The initial interpretation is done by a single thread. use Threads may set up the thread constructs, but threads will not be spawned until