Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-03-01 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:35:43AM -0800, Nathan Wiger wrote: Not too sure about the whole -w on by default thing. Really makes me nervous. All I keep thinking about is the crap that Java spits out every two lines. Makes stuff really look unpolished, and the warnings change based on the JVM

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
At 03:56 AM 3/1/01 -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: A friend of mine was talking about how old WWII era analog fire computers, mechanical devices which calculated how much powder and at what angle a ship's main guns must be fired at. They had a special switch, "Battle Mode". In this mode, the

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-27 Thread Piers Cawley
Nathan Wiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Command-line flags on by default [-T -Mstrict -Mwarnings]: We already beat this to death with the .perlrc discussion. You'll break reams of Perl code you probably don't even know you have this way. It

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-26 Thread Nathan Wiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Command-line flags on by default [-T -Mstrict -Mwarnings]: We already beat this to death with the .perlrc discussion. You'll break reams of Perl code you probably don't even know you have this way. It destroys the portability of Perl programs. Yup, I

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-24 Thread schwern
On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:16:34PM -0800, Nathan Wiger wrote: Ummm, I'm not too sure about this. There are, actually, backwards compatibility concerns. Unless I'm mistaken, warnings go to stderr, correct? Meaning that a program which may have lots of "unitialized variables" and "variable only

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-23 Thread Nathan Wiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we can run an experiment. Warnings can be made default for the first few releases of Perl 6 and we'll see what happens. If it looks good, leave them on. If not, shut them off. Unlike most other features, this one doesn't have any serious backwards

Re: Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-23 Thread Dave Storrs
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Nathan Wiger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we can run an experiment. Warnings can be made default for the first few releases of Perl 6 and we'll see what happens. If it looks Ummm, I'm not too sure about this. There are, actually, backwards

Turn 'em on! (was Re: Warnings, strict, and CPAN)

2001-02-22 Thread schwern
Something I think Ed mentioned in passing a few days ago has been running around in my mind and after some contemplation I think its changed my mind on all this. My position has been that warnings are ultimately good, but people who have not internalized this will easily become annoyed with them