Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 5/28/06, Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27T23:48:43] > The questions that are being asked are for the user's benefit. That is > NOT being a freeloader. Freeloading is taken something from the user and > providing nothing in return. She's

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 28 May 2006 13:48, Michael G Schwern wrote: > More importantly, the statistics gathered would help an author to determine > who, if anyone, is using their module and on what platforms and guide their > development. What versions of Perl does one have to support? What > platforms? Do I

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-28 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27T23:48:43] > The questions that are being asked are for the user's benefit. That is > NOT being a freeloader. Freeloading is taken something from the user and > providing nothing in return. She's providing her free code in return. -- rjbs signatu

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-27 Thread Adam Kennedy
The questions that are being asked are for the user's benefit. That is NOT being a freeloader. Freeloading is taken something from the user and providing nothing in return. If an installer asks a question in order to install the module or run the testing, it is acting for the user's benefit.

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-27 Thread Philippe "BooK" Bruhat
Le samedi 27 mai 2006 à 11:50, Michael G Schwern écrivait: > > If you wanted a way forward from this, a Module::Build::PhoneHome would be > nice with its own environment variable, independent of PERL_MM_USE_DEFAULT, > to switch it off. Then people can just use it and it will do the right > thing,

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-27 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 5/27/06, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tell you what, I'm going to add the same code to all 100+ of my modules. And what if then Audrey and Ovid and Miyagawa and a hundred others did. For an application with 50 dependencies, that's 50 x 20 second pauses, or you get to sit there h

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-27 Thread Adam Kennedy
demerphq wrote: On 5/26/06, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message > From: Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Andy Lester wrote: > > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html > > Ironically, posted

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-26 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 5/26/06, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andy Lester wrote: > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html Ironically, posted by someone that also makes all her modules phone home at install time. Let's be clear,

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-26 Thread Ovid
- Original Message > From: Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Andy Lester wrote: > > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html > > Ironically, posted by someone that also makes all her modules phone home > at in

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/06, Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message > From: Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Andy Lester wrote: > > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html > > Ironically, posted by someone that

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-26 Thread Pete Krawczyk
Subject: Re: Unintended consequences From: Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 09:44:32 -0700 (PDT) }> From: Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> }> }> Ironically, posted by someone that also makes all her modules phone home }> at install time. } }Huh? Can y

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-26 Thread Adam Kennedy
Andy Lester wrote: Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html Ironically, posted by someone that also makes all her modules phone home at install time. Adam K

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-22 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 09:45:31PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html You mean the fact that there's a perl community on LJ? :-) dha -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.p

Unintended consequences

2006-05-22 Thread Andy Lester
Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html xoa -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

Re: Unintended consequences

2006-05-22 Thread Steve Peters
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 09:45:31PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Here's an example of why I'm not real excited about CPANTS: > > http://community.livejournal.com/perl/120747.html > I prefer Acme::Raise_my_kwalitee as my anti-CPANTs example. S