Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-26 Thread Ovid
--- Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this is mostly TPF's communications problem. People don't > know about the grants, or don't know what is likely to be accepted, > don't know when to apply, etc. Suggestions on this are welcome. Grant application time is usually accompanied by

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-23 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Gabor Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:04 PM > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > > > > I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this > thread >

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-23 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > > I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this thread > > because I think it is detracting from your intention of getting money to > > people to work more.

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really "The Parrot Foundation". As brian mentioned, the NLNet grant is what's driving the Parrot work. AFAIK, there haven't been any Parrot-related grants for a long time besides that one and t

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread brian d foy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really "The Parrot > Foundation". It's not The Parrot Foundation. It's that NLNet gave a very large targeted grant for Parrot. It's a single big donation that's driving that. I'm wo

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: I am mostly ignoring the rest of what others have said in this thread because I think it is detracting from your intention of getting money to people to work more. Here is one thing that has frustrated me about TPF. They are a non-profit organization.

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done directly because of rules surrounding TPF's non-profit status. Someone else pointed out the problems with TPF officers benefitting directly from the donations, even though some of the

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Dice
> I've seen that Daniel Ruoso applied for a grant for his smop project, > basically a virtual machine and fast backend for kp6, and perhaps other > implementations. > > TPF decided not to invest into yet another implementation. I appreciate that it is a subtle distinction to make, too subtle to r

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Dice
Hi everyone, Guess it's time for me to finally join the discussion. :-) I've been paying attention to this thread since it started. > > Which made me think ... wasn't this why Mozilla created a corporation? > I believe one can find online write-ups from the people involved with the decision to

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread moritz
> In article > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conrad Schneiker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about >> fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl >> 6 development. To that end, I'm soliciting: > > It's not really a money problem. It's

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread brian d foy
In article , Conrad Schneiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about > fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl > 6 development. To that end, I'm soliciting: It's not really a money problem. It's finding someone to give the money

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Geoffrey Broadwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done > directly because of rules surrounding TPF's non-profit status. That someone was me and that's not what I said. I said it isn't as simple as Bob

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Geoffrey Broadwell
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that's what they > want to do) Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that this can't be done directly beca

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > > I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing > insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's > $100/da

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Conrad Schneiker
> From: Geoffrey Broadwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:20 PM > > On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 18:45 -0500, Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. Allow people to choose where their money will go (if that'

RE: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-22 Thread Conrad Schneiker
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I could take a month's sabbatical from my day job for $5000 without losing > insurance coverage or other benefits. That's slightly more than Audrey's > $100/day,

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-21 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 21 February 2008 06:25:42 Joshua Gatcomb wrote: > Here is something to consider.  Unless we can afford to fund an individual > full time with enough money for them to pay for their own health coverage > and other benefits, the amount of time they are volunteering is already as > much a

Re: Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-21 Thread Joshua Gatcomb
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Conrad Schneiker < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've repeatedly encountered remarks about how much Perl 6 > development is constrained by the fairly severe time and > energy constraints of its overwhelmingly volunteer > development team. Here is something to cons

Perl 6 fundraising and related topics.

2008-02-20 Thread Conrad Schneiker
During the course of collecting material for the Perl 6 wiki section on Perl 6 articles and presentations (http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?perl_6_articles_and_presentat ions), I've repeatedly encountered remarks about how much Perl 6 development is constrained by the fairly severe tim