Re: GC: what is better, reuse or avoid cloning?

2001-02-09 Thread Buddha M Buck
> > On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Branden wrote: > > > Suppose I have a string stored in $foo, say, "abcbca", and then I do: > > > > $bar = $foo; > > $foo .= "xyzyzx"; > > > > I see two ways of doing this: one is allowing a string value to be shared by > > two or more variables, and the other on

Re: GC: what is better, reuse or avoid cloning?

2001-02-09 Thread Sam Tregar
On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Buddha M Buck wrote: > I think what he's thinking (in C terms) would be more like the following: Right. It already has a technical name - copy-on-write. I should have made it more clear that I recognized the intended mechanism. I was trying to demonstrate that Perl-level

Re: GC: what is better, reuse or avoid cloning?

2001-02-09 Thread Sam Tregar
On Sat, 10 Feb 2001, Branden wrote: > Suppose I have a string stored in $foo, say, "abcbca", and then I do: > > $bar = $foo; > $foo .= "xyzyzx"; > > I see two ways of doing this: one is allowing a string value to be shared by > two or more variables, and the other one not. Why would you

GC: what is better, reuse or avoid cloning?

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Back to the GC issue, I was wondering something. Suppose I have a string stored in $foo, say, "abcbca", and then I do: $bar = $foo; $foo .= "xyzyzx"; I see two ways of doing this: one is allowing a string value to be shared by two or more variables, and the other one not. If I allow s

Re: PDD 2, vtables

2001-02-09 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:56 AM 2/9/2001 -0200, Branden wrote: >Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > > Umm, one way or another I suspect UTF-8 will be in there. > > > > I suspect so too but very grudgingly. As Dan said dealing with > > variable length data is a major pain. UTF-8 is certainly a much > > better designed VLD

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 02:13:46PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Could you be more specific about your intents about that language? Do you > > have more information about it (some interesting syntax, or some scripts > > that could inspire new features or interestin

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 02:13:46PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > Well yah! Perl6 array indeed. It also reminds me of PDL. i like the > > data model. It looks like FAME done right. > > Are you suggesting we borrow some features of it? Take some inspiration on >

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:51:02PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well, I found Kdb nothing awesome... The K language I thought it's a > > somewhat interesting, specially the part on "bulk operators", which I think > > is the same that is intended to do with Perl 6

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 10:49 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: >On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At 09:36 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > >Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > > > What about it? Looks like yet another semi-specialized relati

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 01:51:02PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > Well, I found Kdb nothing awesome... The K language I thought it's a > somewhat interesting, specially the part on "bulk operators", which I think >

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At 09:36 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > > >Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > > > What about it? Looks like yet another semi-specialized relational database > > company.

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > Well, I found Kdb nothing awesome... The K language I thought it's a somewhat interesting, specially the part on "bulk operators", which I think is the same that is intended to do with Perl 6 arrays (@a + @b). And an abstr

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 10:16:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 09:36 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > >Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? > > What about it? Looks like yet another semi-specialized relational database > company. (With a far too clever website) Am

Re: kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:36 AM 2/9/2001 -0500, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: >Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? What about it? Looks like yet another semi-specialized relational database company. (With a far too clever website) Dan --

kdb

2001-02-09 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
Does everyone already know about www.kx.com ? -- May the best description of competition prevail. (via, but not speaking for Deutsche Bank)

Binary compatibility of extensions (was Auto-install on -language)

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Hi. This was posted on -language about packaging scripts/modules in a kind of a zip file, for easy automated installing. This issue was brought up: Branden wrote: > Nicholas Clark wrote: > > on perl 5 different configure options generate different binaries. > > Can this be standardized somehow?

Re: PDD 2, vtables

2001-02-09 Thread Branden
Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > Umm, one way or another I suspect UTF-8 will be in there. > > I suspect so too but very grudgingly. As Dan said dealing with > variable length data is a major pain. UTF-8 is certainly a much > better designed VLD than most but it's still a pain. > I guess that's why

Re: PDD 2, vtables

2001-02-09 Thread Simon Cozens
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 09:55:17PM -0600, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > Umm, one way or another I suspect UTF-8 will be in there. > > I suspect so too but very grudgingly. If we abstract the string handling nicely, it can be added on later or even separately. (Credo: We don't have to write all of