Re: Split PMCs

2001-04-24 Thread Larry Wall
Dan Sugalski writes: : Unless Larry says otherwise, this: : :my num @foo; : : will have the data portion of the @foo PMC point off to a block of memory : with floats jammed end-to-end in it. I'm not going to say other. Larry

Re: Tying & Overloading

2001-04-24 Thread Larry Wall
Nick Ing-Simmons writes: : Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : >I think using overloading to write a parser is going to be a relic of : >Perl 5's limitations, not Perl 6's. : : I am _NOT_ using overloading to write a parser. : Parse::Yapp is just fine for writing parsers. I am trying to re-

Re: Tying & Overloading

2001-04-24 Thread Larry Wall
Dan Sugalski writes: : Resizing the vtable at runtime is a really dodgy thing. There are some : rather huge threading implications here--changing their size (as opposed to : using up a limited number of "uncommitted" spots we leave at the end) means : potentially having to move all the vtables

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Bart Lateur
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:17:08 -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >Wasn't Perl also taken, so why care...? I vaguely remember reading >about another language called PERL... It was "Pearl", AFAIK. That's why the "a" got missing. So I've been told... ("Practical Extracting And Reporting Language"... y

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:11:01PM -0400, Andy Dougherty wrote: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: > > > The big reason for Parrot was that I was terribly amused by Simon's joke, > > and I have visions of releasing perl 6.0 on April 1 next year... :) > > > > Other than that, I really do

RE: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: > The big reason for Parrot was that I was terribly amused by Simon's joke, > and I have visions of releasing perl 6.0 on April 1 next year... :) > > Other than that, I really don't care much, though a good (or bad) pun is > always a big plus. Starting

Re: wacko idea

2001-04-24 Thread David L. Nicol
Uri Guttman wrote: > i was looking at dan's PMC arena allocator struct and it reminded me of > something an older language can do (which MJD has likened to an early > perl :). ever heard of AREA in PL/I? it was a large chunk of ram > dedicated to allocate memory from. what was special is that all

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Uri Guttman
> "DS" == Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> Other than that, I really don't care much, though a good (or bad) DS> pun is always a big plus. how about 'perm' which is 'perl'++ uri -- Uri Guttman - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.sysarch.com SYStems ARCH

RE: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 03:46 PM 4/24/2001 -0400, NeonEdge wrote: >Actually, there are already languages named 'Parrot' and 'Poly' (links >below). Besides, I'm getting tired of animals . What about something >more fun, like "Magoo" or "Gilligan"? Or maybe we could move to insects, like >"Mantis" or "Wasp". The bi

Re: Prelim version of GC PDD updated

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:00 PM 4/24/2001 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >I've updated http://www.sidhe.org/~dan/perl/gc.html (as well as html-izing >it. The text version's still there) for those who are curious. >Specifically the implementation section for reference tracking and the PMC >arena stuff's done. Y'know,

RE: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread NeonEdge
Actually, there are already languages named 'Parrot' and 'Poly' (links below). Besides, I'm getting tired of animals . What about something more fun, like "Magoo" or "Gilligan"? Or maybe we could move to insects, like "Mantis" or "Wasp". If we have to go with an animal, though, I like "Buzza

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Mike Stok
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Dan Sugalski wrote: > Or, rather, I think we should have one. Naming the interpreter separate > from the language may help folks keep the various bits separate in their > minds. (It'll certainly help me be clearer when I talk about it) > > Personally, I'm up for calling the i

Prelim version of GC PDD updated

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
I've updated http://www.sidhe.org/~dan/perl/gc.html (as well as html-izing it. The text version's still there) for those who are curious. Specifically the implementation section for reference tracking and the PMC arena stuff's done. If folks would care to look and comment, that'd be keen. Bet

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 12:35 PM 4/24/2001 -0300, Branden wrote: >At 11:27 AM 24/04/2001 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >>Or, rather, I think we should have one. Naming the interpreter separate >>from the language may help folks keep the various bits separate in their >>minds. (It'll certainly help me be clearer when I

Re: So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Branden
At 11:27 AM 24/04/2001 -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote: >Or, rather, I think we should have one. Naming the interpreter separate >from the language may help folks keep the various bits separate in their >minds. (It'll certainly help me be clearer when I talk about it) Actually, I think the language

So, we need a code name...

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Sugalski
Or, rather, I think we should have one. Naming the interpreter separate from the language may help folks keep the various bits separate in their minds. (It'll certainly help me be clearer when I talk about it) Personally, I'm up for calling the interpreter "Parrot" unless someone has an object

debugger PDD delay

2001-04-24 Thread Dave Storrs
Apologies all...I have the document, but I'm having trouble getting it out of my computer. I don't have Internet access yet and my floppy drive is refusing to read. I'll see if I can get the printer hooked up tonight, print the thing out, retype it at work tomorrow, and send it in then. Dave

Re: Tying & Overloading

2001-04-24 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Nick Ing-Simmons writes: >: >You really have to talk about overloading boolean context >: >in general. >: >: Only if you are going to execute the result in the normal perl realm. >: Consider using the perl parser to build a parse tree - e.g. one to >: read

Re: wacko idea

2001-04-24 Thread A. C. Yardley
Well, generally, I try to keep my mouth shut and stay out of these kinds of things, but I'd really like to see some more discussion on this one. So, ... It's not a wacko idea, imho; in fact, it could also work quite well with a "Stop-and-Copy" semispaces-type GC, if Dan elects to go with somethi