Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread Deven T. Corzine
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 1:30 PM +1000 8/6/02, Damian Conway wrote: Luke Palmer asked: Does: print %foo{bar}{baz}; still create %foo{bar} as a hashref if it doesn't exist? It is my very strong hope that it will not. Unless Larry declares otherwise, it

Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Larry Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, there are issues here if the code modifies those variables, since the issue of whether a variable is rw is really distinct from whether it represents a pass by value or reference. Slapping a constant on it is a bald-faced attempt to get the

Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread Deven T. Corzine
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Larry Wall wrote: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Deven T. Corzine wrote: : However, will the func($x{1}{2}{3}) case cause an implementation problem? This is why the new function type signatures will assume that parameters are constant. If you want a modifiable parameter, you

The Perl5-Perl6 Convertor

2002-08-13 Thread Mike Lambert
In essence, all Perl 5 functions have a signature of (*@_ is rw). Perhaps the translator can turn some of those into (*@_). What'd really be cool is if it could pick up an initial my ($a, $b, $c) = _; Excuse my ignorance here, but I thought the plan for backwards compatibility with

Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 03:06:40PM -0400, Deven T. Corzine wrote: The only accurate way to know if the code modifies the variables is to do some sort of dataflow analysis, and it can't be 100% accurate even then. (Suppose a shift may or may not happen, depending on the parameters, then

Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread Deven T. Corzine
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 03:06:40PM -0400, Deven T. Corzine wrote: The only accurate way to know if the code modifies the variables is to do some sort of dataflow analysis, and it can't be 100% accurate even then. (Suppose a shift may or may

Re: Autovivi

2002-08-13 Thread Uri Guttman
NC == Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NC Well, perl5 does already manage to avoid auto-vivifying hash keys NC when they are used as subroutine arguments. It uses magic, rather NC than dataflow analysis: NC sub rval { NC my $a = $_[0]; NC } NC sub lval { NC $_[0] =