[RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread Michael Lazzaro
Adjusted for the most recent notes: includes «op» as the preferred (and possibly only) spelling of "vectorize". Everything but a few hyperop issues appears to be close to final, by my count: if/when Larry sticks a fork() in it, it's done. hyperoperators: «op» - When used with any unary or

[RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread fearcadi
Michael Lazzaro writes: > magical whitespace modifier: > >_ - When used at the end of a line or between >statement elements, acts to "remove" whitespace >when interpreting the statement. (Allows >whitespace to appear without invoking any >

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread David Wheeler
On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 12:21 PM, Michael Lazzaro wrote: ^[op] - [maybe] synonym for «op» - [maybe] synonym for »op« I think that would be: `<> - synonym for «op» `>>op<< - synonym for »op« Unless I misunderstood Larry's post, in which case it might be: `<>` - synony

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread Richard Proctor
On Fri 01 Nov, Michael Lazzaro wrote: > >(heredocs) - [exact format unknown; probably as perl5] > There are comments by Larry in Appo 2 wrt RFCs 111 and 162. Appo 2: === 111 aaa Here Docs Terminators (Was Whitespace and Here Docs) 162 abb Heredoc Contents RFC 111: Here D

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread John Williams
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Michael Lazzaro wrote: >... - synonym for ..Inf Did I miss the report of the bistable ... operator's death? I've looked around, but I can't seem to find it. ~ John Williams

RE: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread Garrett Goebel
David Wheeler wrote: > On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 12:21 PM, Michael Lazzaro wrote: > > > ^[op] - [maybe] synonym for «op» > > - [maybe] synonym for »op« > > I think that would be: > >`<> - synonym for «op» >`>>op<< - synonym for »op« > > Unless I misunderstood Larry's po

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 12:21:43PM -0800, Michael Lazzaro wrote: > +&+|+^<<>>- bitwise (integer) operations > +&= +|= +^= <<= >>= I might have missed this, but if + introduces bitwise operations, why aren't we using it in the shift operations? +&+|+^

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-01 Thread Uri Guttman
> "ML" == Michael Lazzaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ML>+&+|+^<<>>- bitwise (integer) operations ML>+&= +|= +^= <<= >>= ML>~&~|~^- charwise (string) operations ML>~&= ~|= ~^= i think those descriptions need to b

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-02 Thread Luke Palmer
> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:15:05 +0200 > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-SMTPD: qpsmtpd/0.12, http://develooper.com/code/qpsmtpd/ > > Michael Lazzaro writes: > > > magical whitespace modifier: > > > >_ - Whe

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-02 Thread fearcadi
Luke Palmer writes: > > What _are_ you talking about. IIRC, there were never any plans for > such a "placeholder." There were the placeholder _variables_, $^x et > al., but the underscore was never used for such a thing. That could > be why I've been so confused by some of your examples.

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-05 Thread Dennis Haney
Michael Lazzaro wrote: ~ - force to string context ~ ~= - string concat ARG. When did this get chosen? ~ has to be absolutly the most difficult letter to type on the intire keyboard along with ^ and ", because they are also used as a prefix to make û, ü, õ,

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-06 Thread Larry Wall
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:18:18PM +0100, Dennis Haney wrote: : Michael Lazzaro wrote: : : > ~ - force to string context : : > ~ ~= - string concat : : ARG. When did this get chosen? : ~ has to be absolutly the most difficult letter to type on the intire : keyboar

Re: [RFC] Perl Operator List, TAKE 6

2002-11-06 Thread John Adams
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:13:36 -0800 Larry Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're not supposed to use string concatenation > all that often anyway... I'm not supposed (for some value of supposed) to use Perl at my job, but I do, and I suspect I use string concatenation in about one script in five,