Okay folks, I'd like to remind everyone that on the perl 6 lists it's expected that we can all act like rational adults. This means no flaming, no ranting, no whining, and no behaving like spoiled and unpleasant children. If you can't behave like this on-list, please do take a step back until you can. This goes for *everyone*, in every situation. If you feel it absolutely necessary to be rude or unpleasant, do it in private mail please. Provocation is *not* an excuse for bad behaviour in public. This doesn't mean, however, that off-topic mail must be met with an off-topic answer. It does mean that the public responses to off-topic mail must be polite and pleasant. Dan --------------------------------------"it's like this"------------------- Dan Sugalski even samurai [EMAIL PROTECTED] have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk