Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-16 Thread TSa
HaloO, Ovid wrote: In other words, I think we could get proper constraint programming if a subset can mutate its variable. Otherwise, all assignment would need to be wrapped inside of an eval and the code would be more bug-prone. I must admit that I hardly follow that statement. Why are

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-16 Thread TSa
HaloO, Daniel Ruoso wrote: In fact, I doubt that there's a way to completely avoid any possible side effects on this closures. as the very first line of the closure shows: $_.inside_of(...) This is a plain method call, there's no way to tell if this method will change anything inside the

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-16 Thread Ovid
--- TSa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must admit that I hardly follow that statement. Why are side-effects essential to achieve constraint programming and why do you think that the way to get at the constraint programming paradigm are the subset type definitions? Because I can't think of any

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-16 Thread Ovid
--- TSa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Ruoso wrote: In fact, I doubt that there's a way to completely avoid any possible side effects on this closures. as the very first line of the closure shows: $_.inside_of(...) This is a plain method call, there's no way to tell if

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-16 Thread Thomas Sandlaß
HaloO, On Monday, 16. June 2008 10:11:49 Ovid wrote: For example, should the pre/postfix '++' be listed as having a side-effect? I think so. But the scope where these side-effects take place is important as well. In your second example below the side-effect is restrained to the subs scope.

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-10 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Seg, 2008-06-09 às 23:36 +0100, Ovid escreveu: --- Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By default, block parameters (including $_) are readonly, I hope that is a deep readonly? In other words, if $_.position returns an array reference, can I mutate a value in that reference and the

Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Ovid
Anyone have any idea why Google is not indexing the official Perl 6 documentation at perlcabal.org/syn? I checked the robots.txt and it looks fine: http://www.perlcabal.org/robots.txt But the search box on http://www.perlcabal.org/syn/ returns nothing. Specifically, I was looking for the

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Moritz Lenz
Ovid wrote: Anyone have any idea why Google is not indexing the official Perl 6 documentation at perlcabal.org/syn? I checked the robots.txt and it looks fine: http://www.perlcabal.org/robots.txt But the search box on http://www.perlcabal.org/syn/ returns nothing. The whole domain

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Ovid wrote: Specifically, I was looking for the documentation on how subsets work See S12: http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S12.html#Types_and_Subtypes as it looks like we can get declarative style constraint programming for free: subset Crosshair of Point where {

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Ovid
--- Moritz Lenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ovid wrote: Anyone have any idea why Google is not indexing the official Perl 6 documentation at perlcabal.org/syn? I checked the robots.txt and it looks fine: http://www.perlcabal.org/robots.txt But the search box on

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Jonathan Worthington
Ovid wrote: Well, looking at the examples that you and Jonathan listed, I see I should refine my question. For example: subset Crosshair of Point where { $_.inside_of($target_area) || $target_area.has_moved ?? $_.move_inside($target_area) ::

Re: Google index and subsets (two topics for the price of one!)

2008-06-09 Thread Ovid
--- Jonathan Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ovid wrote: By default, block parameters (including $_) are readonly, I hope that is a deep readonly? In other words, if $_.position returns an array reference, can I mutate a value in that reference and the state of $_ is thereby changed?