Re: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread Simon Cozens
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:19:26PM -0700, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote: I would say Simon was the one ignoring an issue and attacking a person, not Vijay. You are wrong. Go back through the archives. Vijay has posted four messages: two of which are critical of Perl, two of which are pretty

RE: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread David Grove
If you have not been following this thread, then maybe that is the reason for the confused-sounding nature of your email. I would say Simon was the one ignoring an issue and attacking a person, not Vijay. I think Vijay was the one pointing out that this person (Me) was contributing to

RE: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread David Grove
on topic for the reformation of this language. I consider this social reform of at least equal importance to the Perl community as any new syntactic differences and changes in underlying parser engines. I personally consider social reform to be far more important than the latter, but I do not expect

Re: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread Bart Lateur
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:54:13 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:19:26PM -0700, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote: I would say Simon was the one ignoring an issue and attacking a person, not Vijay. You are wrong. Go back through the archives. Vijay has posted four messages: two of

RE: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread David Grove
-Original Message- From: Bart Lateur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:48 AM To: Perl 6 Language Mailing List Subject: Re: Social Reform On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:54:13 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 05:19:26PM -0700, Daniel S. Wilkerson

RE: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread David Grove
Well, I *have* been following the discussion. And to me, it looks indeed like you, Simon, were indeed attacking ME on non-technical grounds. Vijay just jumped in for him, like a lioness trying to protect her kittens. Which he does from time to time, as do most of us, myself likely

Re: Social Reform

2001-06-12 Thread Daniel S. Wilkerson
Excuse me, my mistake. David Grove wrote: If you have not been following this thread, then maybe that is the reason for the confused-sounding nature of your email. I would say Simon was the one ignoring an issue and attacking a person, not Vijay. I think Vijay was the one

Social Reform

2001-06-11 Thread David Grove
this group, including your previous call to arms. We will achieve social reform only by refusing to conduct ourselves in this manner, and without social reform, Perl 6 may as well not exist for all the good it does us as a community. Sure, it gives some overbrained geeks a chance to play around

Re: Social Reform

2001-06-11 Thread Daniel S. Wilkerson
will achieve social reform only by refusing to conduct ourselves in this manner, and without social reform, Perl 6 may as well not exist for all the good it does us as a community. Sure, it gives some overbrained geeks a chance to play around with language design for a while, but that's about