Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-18 Thread Tom Christiansen
I doubt anyone's arguing that they're not function calls. What I find "surprising" is that Perl doesn't DWIM here. It doesn't encourage data encapsulation or try to make it easy: my $weather = new Schwern::Example; print "Today's weather will be $weather-{temp} degrees and sunny.";

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-18 Thread Damian Conway
my $weather = new Schwern::Example; print "Today's weather will be $weather-{temp} degrees and sunny."; print "And tomorrow we'll be expecting ", $weather-forecast; You are wicked and wrong to have broken inside and peeked at the implementation and then relied

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-18 Thread John Siracusa
On 9/18/00 3:44 AM, Damian Conway wrote: my $weather = new Schwern::Example; print "Today's weather will be $weather-{temp} degrees and sunny."; print "And tomorrow we'll be expecting ", $weather-forecast; You are wicked and wrong to have broken inside and peeked at the

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-18 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 07:23:41AM -0600, Tom Christiansen wrote: Oh joy: now Perl has nested quotes. I *hate* nested quotes. Those are single-quotes inside double-quotes. Yep: nested, with varying semantic effects. Completely nasty. As Nate pointed out: print "$hash-{'f'.'oo'}" already

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-18 Thread Tom Christiansen
As Nate pointed out: print "$hash-{'f'.'oo'}" already works fine and the world spins on. That is no argument for promoting illegibility. --tom

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-17 Thread Tom Christiansen
Method calls should interpolate in double-quoted strings, and similar locations. print "Today's weather will be $weather-temp degrees and sunny."; Would deparse to: print 'Today\'s weather will be '.$weather-temp().' degrees and sunny.'; So, the - operator is supposed to get expanded

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-17 Thread Nathan Wiger
Tom Christiansen wrote: print "Today's weather will be $weather-temp degrees and sunny."; So, the - operator is supposed to get expanded in dq strings, eh? It already does, or at least appears to to users: print "Today's weather will be $weather-{temp} degrees and sunny.";

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
Sorry, I wasn't subscribed to perl6-language-objects and didn't even realize there was a discussion going on. I just fixed that. I didn't mean to hijack RFC 103, I can't remember if I'd even looked at it before... but Nathan seems okay with that and it is a deceptively large issue. Version 2

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:56:23PM -0600, Tom Christiansen wrote: While you're there, you should fix it to spell piƱatas properly. :-( We're not talking about stands of pine trees, presumably. Funny, I know how to type extended characters in MacOS, but I have no idea how to do it in X. Hell,

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-15 Thread David L. Nicol
The only decision, then, is to decide which context to use; if it deparses to concatenation then it seems logical to use scalar context. This also makes sense in that you can force list context with @{[ $weather-temp ]} if you really wanted it. $ perl -le 'sub w{wantarray?"WA":"WS"};print

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-15 Thread Michael Fowler
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 07:24:39PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote: The only decision, then, is to decide which context to use; if it deparses to concatenation then it seems logical to use scalar context. This also makes sense in that you can force list context with @{[ $weather-temp ]} if

RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
=head1 TITLE Interpolation of method calls =head1 VERSION Maintainer: Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14 Sep 2000 Version:1 Mailing List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =head1 ABSTRACT Method calls should interpolate in double-quoted strings, and similar locations.

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-14 Thread Michael Fowler
This topic is actually covered, albeit far less in-depth and lumped with an unrelated change, by Nathan Wiger's RFC 103, just in case you weren't aware. On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 03:57:41AM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: Methods will be run in scalar context. A method which returns a single

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-14 Thread Nathan Wiger
This topic is actually covered, albeit far less in-depth and lumped with an unrelated change, by Nathan Wiger's RFC 103, just in case you weren't aware. Yeah, I've got to split those up. I was trying cut down on the flood of RFC's that poor Larry has to sift through :-(, but they are both

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-14 Thread Nick Ing-Simmons
Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: print "Today's weather will be $weather-temp degrees and sunny."; This does not DWIM. Instead of interpolating C$weather-temp as a method call, it comes out as C$weather.'-temp' and is usually followed immediately by the question "What does

Re: RFC - Interpolation of method calls

2000-09-14 Thread Michael Fowler
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:49:32AM -0700, Nathan Wiger wrote: print 'Today\'s weather will be '.join($", $weather-temp()). ' degrees and sunny.'; However if temp() calls wantarray(), the result will be FALSE (scalar). I think what he's trying to get at is that these