Can perforce gateway to CVS without loss of metadata? (was Re: code repository)

2000-09-08 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Adam Turoff wrote: *: Sarathy tells me that Perforce sucks at maintaining thousands of anonymous checkouts, while CVS doesn't mind at all. This is a perfect reason to use anon CVS vs. Perforce, but does not require that Perforce be ditched in favor of CVS, only that an anon CVS gateway be

Re: code repository

2000-09-07 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Adam Turoff wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:14:17AM -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: Dan Sugalski wrote: The decisions should be based on technical merit and general availability. I would include "available under a free software license" as part of the definition of "general

Re: code repository

2000-09-07 Thread Dan Sugalski
Bennett, Perforce is a better source code control system than the source alternatives, and certainly better for the task we face than CVS. You're certainly not forced to use it. You can, if you rather, grab snapshot archives, rsync from the repository directory, or even grab a copy of the

Re: code repository

2000-09-07 Thread Adam Turoff
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 05:31:37PM -0400, Bennett Todd wrote: 2000-09-07-17:11:50 Dan Sugalski: That's certainly possible, but since the reason we're gathered here together working on trying to launch perl6 is a collective belief that perl5 has become unmaintainable for further development,

Re: code repository

2000-09-07 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 01:49:36PM -0400, Peter Allen wrote: They have a catchy slogan for it. They call it the test -- code -- design development cycle. That sounds bad. I've heard about this style. Code now, refactor later. Its supposed to avoid the need for sweeping

Re: code repository

2000-09-07 Thread Nathan Torkington
Michael G Schwern writes: There's one solution, now that we have a nifty source control stuff. Branch like mad! Feature creep should be discouraged, but if a group wants to go off and work on something which isn't going to make it into the next release they can branch and play. That

Re: code repository

2000-09-06 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: [...] Also, what if people want to learn how the source system works on their own, and experiment with it? With only 100-user license, we are pretty tight as to who can do that. There are probably more than 100 people on the various perl6 mailing

Re: code repository

2000-09-05 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 09:29 AM 9/4/00 -0400, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: the perl-qa people have some code they need to manage in a repository of some kind. For now I have directed them to SourceForge, but I have a 100 users license for perforce I got for perl, so if we can get a quick

Re: code repository

2000-09-05 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Dan Sugalski wrote: I don't think we should make decisions about the software we use for development based on political views. While I do have many political views regarding free software, this is an issue of ethical views. It against my personal ethics to use proprietary software.

Re: code repository

2000-09-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Nathan Torkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I picture the design process ending with a breakdown into modules, and then a codification of the interfaces between the modules. Then we stub the modules, get something that passes the compiler. Now we turn to implementation, and begin filling

Re: code repository

2000-09-03 Thread Nathan Torkington
Russ Allbery writes: I also think this may well be a good place to apply one of the ideas of XP (Extreme Programming, a fairly flexible small-group software design methodology), namely to write test cases *first* in many cases before writing the code, and to seriously consider trying to write