Graphical Toolkits

2016-08-25 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
Hi ISTM that right now the only option if you want to develop a graphical desktop application is GTK. At least it seems to be the only one on the modules list. You may very well correct me if I'm wrong. I'm thinking if anybody has any knowledge of other projects, perhaps Qt5, Wx, or any othe

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Dipesh Sharma
Hi, Dependency on perl5 for building perl6 looks like a concern. It means that we can't have and environment with perl6, without perl5. I may be thinking too ahead, but isn't that the state we want perl6 to be in? Thanks, Dipesh On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Bennett Todd wrote: > Actually,

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Bennett Todd
Figuring out the environment, and how to best fit into it, is tricky, wants a richly powerful programming language, like perl. Ideally one that's almost certainly already available. Someday, Perl6 will be that language.

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Brock Wilcox
Simplification of Rakudo's build process is an ongoing process, and I see progress all the time. Remember also that Rakudo is the most active and complete implementation of Perl 6, but that there can and should be other completely separate implementations. On Aug 25, 2016 1:37 PM, "Dipesh Sharma"

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:37:45AM -0700, Dipesh Sharma wrote: > Dependency on perl5 for building perl6 looks like a concern. It means that > we can't have and environment with perl6, without perl5. I disagree. Just because perl5 is currently required to *build* Rakudo doesn't mean that perl5 h

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Bennett Todd
Bootstrapping is funny that way. Besides the tools in the environment, you've got to have at least 1GB RAM available to build perl6. I can compile it within the Gnuroot Debian app on my Nexus 5, which has 2GB total real ram, so it has enough even inside the Android app. I can't similarly buil

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Parrot Raiser
It's going to be easier to demonstrate stand-alone Perl 6 on Windows than an *nix machine. If you remove Perl from them, the result will probably be a broken system. On 8/25/16, Bennett Todd wrote: > Bootstrapping is funny that way. > > Besides the tools in the environment, you've got to have at

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Dipesh Sharma
There is a difference in gcc and perl5. A C compiler is needed to build each and every thing out there. What is mean is: is bash version n-1 needed to build bash version n? I believe the answer is no. On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:37:45AM

Re: can Perl 6 bootstrap itself

2016-08-25 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Dipesh Sharma wrote: > is bash version n-1 needed to build bash version n? This is pretty much the definition of "self-bootstrapping". For some things it is considered good; for others, bad. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine

Re: Graphical Toolkits

2016-08-25 Thread Timo Paulssen
On 08/25/2016 11:30 AM, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > Hi > > ISTM that right now the only option if you want to develop a graphical > desktop application is GTK. At least it seems to be the only one on > the modules list. You may very well correct me if I'm wrong. > > I'm thinking if anybody has any kno

Re: Graphical Toolkits

2016-08-25 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
On 2016-08-26 03:14, Timo Paulssen wrote: with Inline::Python you can use at least one of the Qt bindings python The Inline::* options are mostly interesting when porting or binding to existing applications, IMHO. But it's a valid point. Doesn't Perl 5 have some implementations as well? Th