Thank you Kilian for the Link to the papers on the Museumpests website and 
Pascal for some papers about biological control.
Over the same Link you find in the Vienna papers from page 218-232 the 
Biological control - Review from Schöller_Prozell, like Pascal had sent today 
as PDF   ;- )

Best
Stephan

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Dear all,

I was in fact talking about my paper at the 2013 IPM conference in Vienna. 
After the meeting Pascal Querner spent a lot of his time editing the 
proceedings and when at the last moment there was no funding for a printed 
volume I missed that he very expertly put the papers on the Museumpests website 
https://museumpests.net/conferences/international-conference-in-vienna-austria-2013/
 . Thanks again, Pascal, for all you've done there. My paper is on page 233-239 
but there are also many others worth reading.

Best regards,

Kilian

Conservateur responsable de la conservation préventive des collections
MEG - Musée d'Ethnographie de Genève
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CH-1205 Genève
Tél. +41 22 418 4592
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I wonder if it’s something we could put a link to and host on the museumpests 
website?
Killian, if that’s of interest, please let me know, and I can look into it as a 
possibility.




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Hi Kilian,


It would it be great to get a copy of the English version of your paper if that 
is possible?


Best wishes,

Jessica Gray
Conservation Laboratory Technical Officer
Strategic Collections
(She/Her)

MAAS acknowledges Australia’s First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners 
and Custodians of the land and gives respect to the Elders – past and present – 
and through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.


Jessie Gray
Conservation Laboratory Technical Officer
Museum of Applied Arts and Sciences
500 Harris Street, Ultimo, Sydney, NSW 2007 Australia
MAAS acknowledges Australia’s First Nations Peoples as the Traditional Owners 
and Custodians of the land and gives respect to the Elders – past and present – 
and through them to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.


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Sent: Thursday, 18 February 2021 11:54 PM
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Kilian,


2013 I was also at the IPM conference and heard your talk about the costly 
failure in your museum with an ethnographic collection. And I know the 
concerned contractor in Switzerland, who are specialized in alternative pest 
control for stored products and other urban pests. The managing director from 
this pest control company was also at the conference in Vienna and he told me 
about the observed problems with biocide contamination and dying Trichogramma 
waps around the applied wasps cards. Maybe this was not the right place and 
time, for testing the biological method inside a contaminated collection.

After more than 13 years practical experience with many successfully 
Trichogramma applications and less similar failures in collections with 
chemical contamination, I will agree with you, that you always have to think 
twice, to use living organisms inside high risk collections. But this means for 
me “Integrated Pest Management”, to consider every time the best method for the 
protection of our cultural collections. Retrospectively seen, we learn many 
from bad experiences and should talk about it, to make it better. From your 
view as conservator, I agree totally, that no damages or alterations on 
materials are wanted.
And I have seen some museums storages with chemical contaminated textiles and a 
strong active WCM infestation. So I think a tiny little Trichogramma wasp with 
0,3 mm is dying faster by contact with DDT or permethrin than a 3-4mm big larva 
from clothes moth or dermestid beetles.


The release of parasitoides as natural antagonists for protection of cultural 
heritage is “one” part of the European Integrated Pest Management Standard DIN 
EN 
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Best regards
Stephan Biebl


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Germany
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Hello,

We had a large scale trial with Trichogramma evanescens wasps against a Tineola 
bisselliella infestation in our reserves in 2009-10 which was a costly failure. 
Not only were the wasps inefficient because of their very limited range of 
action (they are tiny and do not fly) but we were also left with the cleaning 
issue afterwards.This was not a small matter because the specialized contractor 
applied them directly on to our collections of fur and feathers among other 
things. They are biologists, not conservators, and the necessary cleaning was 
just not something that they had thought of or had to deal with. Imagine the 
wasps as a grey dust, very time consuming if not impossible to remove from 
delicate textiles, fur, feathers etc. The dead wasps (we deployed a total of 
more than 3 million wasps in two years) do not magically disappear, they are 
still there on all delicate objects in our African collection. Think twice if 
this is really what you want to do to your collection.
It was suggested to us afterwards that the inefficiency of the wasps against 
the moths may have been due to a low level presence of insecticides (not enough 
to keep the moths at bay, though). Like in most other ethnographic and natural 
history collections, my predecessors in our institution used various chemicals 
to protect the objects. When I started here 10 years ago I found an empty 
bottle of DDT solution on a storage shelf. This may or may not have had an 
effect on the wasps but you may want to keep it in mind if your objects have 
also been treated at some point in the past.
Our experiences have been published in Studies in Conservation 58 (2013). Even 
though the paper is in French there are images which speak for themselves and I 
have also got an unpublished english version available on request.

Best regards,

Kilian Anheuser
Curator for preventive conservation
MEG - Musée d'ethnographie de Genève, Switzerland
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