[petsc-dev] Seeking Advice on Petsc Preconditioners to Try

2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Dave Nystrom wrote: > Mark F. Adams writes: >> It sounds like you have a symmetric positive definite systems like du/dt - >> div(alpha(x) grad)u. The du/dt term makes the systems easier to solve. >> I'm guessing your hard system does not have this mass term and so is

[petsc-dev] Seeking Advice on Petsc Preconditioners to Try

2011-12-23 Thread Dave Nystrom
Mark F. Adams writes: > It sounds like you have a symmetric positive definite systems like du/dt - > div(alpha(x) grad)u. The du/dt term makes the systems easier to solve. > I'm guessing your hard system does not have this mass term and so is > purely elliptic. Multigrid is well suited for th

[petsc-dev] Non-scalable matrix operations

2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
ISs, but > the user shouldn't get a Mat back in their callback because they are being > asked to perform a nonlinear operation that does not use a Mat. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-dev/attachments/20111223/d356c58b/attachment.html>

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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
dard coloring G-S, so you can think of it in that way. If you did dumb coloring then you would need to use this new primitive on each color, and you need a graph to do the coloring. Mark -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-dev/attachments/20111223/ca22fb91/attachment.html>

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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
sed for non-symetric operators we could simplify the algorithm a bit and get rid of this ... Mark -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-dev/attachments/20111223/56c7557c/attachment.html>

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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
; I think the number of colors is pretty much hopeless if you use a stable Stokes element like Q2-P1disc. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-dev/attachments/20111223/411ac501/attachment.html>

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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
can build the ISs, but the user shouldn't get a Mat back in their callback because they are being asked to perform a nonlinear operation that does not use a Mat. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/pets

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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
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2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Knepley
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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Knepley
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2011-12-23 Thread Mark F. Adams
MIS and MOOSE wants parallel coloring, both of which involve moving > integer data over the scatter context. > > What other implementations are currently non-scalable? Do we need other > primitives, or would two-way integer operations over the MPIXAIJ scatter and > via an IS be suf

[petsc-dev] Building PETSc with PGI Compilers

2011-12-23 Thread Satish Balay
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Dave Nystrom wrote: > Jed Brown writes: > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 22:18, Dave Nystrom > wrote: > > > > > --with-gnu-compilers=0 --with-vendor-compilers=pgi > > > > --with-vendor-compilers=portland > So, should I specify each of the compiler environment variables th

[petsc-dev] Non-scalable matrix operations

2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
e like, here's something that perhaps we want to put in PETSc, what rich communication pattern does it use, such that, if provided, the implementation would be simple? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-de

[petsc-dev] Relocatable RPM for PETSc

2011-12-23 Thread Lisandro Dalcin
On 22 December 2011 13:57, Matthew Knepley wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Lisandro Dalcin > wrote: >> >> On 22 December 2011 12:19, Matthew Knepley wrote: >> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chekuri S. Choudary >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am building an RPM for petsc-3.

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2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Knepley
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[petsc-dev] Building PETSc with PGI Compilers

2011-12-23 Thread Cortese . Thomas
Do you mean CC = /path/to/pgcc p.s. I am almost certainly leaving my current position at the end of the year; could my petsc-dev email address be changed to tcortese at illinoisalumni.org Thanks, -Tom Cortese From: petsc-dev-bounces at mcs.anl.gov [pets

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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
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2011-12-23 Thread Jed Brown
agonstics, often takes significant effort to build code) and don't offer much if anything in performance. In contrast, Intel compilers usually don't require much effort to try. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.mcs.anl.gov/pipermail/petsc-dev/attachments/20111223/259181bf/attachment.html>