Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-users] Matrix-free method in PETSc

2020-02-20 Thread Richard Tran Mills via petsc-dev
Well said, Lisandro! Barry, one of the reasons I became a PETSc user (and later developer) was how great you were about patiently answering my (sometimes clueless) questions. You've been doing an amazing job answering user questions for decades. Even the best people (and you are unquestionably one

Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-users] Matrix-free method in PETSc

2020-02-20 Thread Stefano Zampini
Barry Lisandro already said most of it. We are all adults and we make mistakes, and we listen without getting offended. We listen and, if we are smart, we listen carefully. I value sincerity more than inclusiveness. With that said, I think your very last email was the real mistake. Thanks Stef

Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-users] Matrix-free method in PETSc

2020-02-20 Thread Lisandro Dalcin
Barry, while I understand your frustration, I really hope you reconsider your decision. Without you this project will slowly (fastly?) go straight down to a sinkhole. There are many of us that appreciate you highly are keep participating in this project thanks to your tirelessly efforts leading it.

Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-users] Matrix-free method in PETSc

2020-02-20 Thread Smith, Barry F. via petsc-dev
PETSc developers and users, I apologize for my rude and unfair message to PETSc developers. I have removed myself from the PETSc mailing lists and removed my access to the PETSc repository and will no longer be involved in PETSc. Barry > On Feb 18, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Smith, B