Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-19 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Damien Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mismatches between pfctl and the kernel happen on -current from time to > time, and I think being locked out is better than falling back to permit > all... .. if you have physical access to the machine in question. Then again, if you run -current on

Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-18 Thread Damien Miller
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Can Erkin Acar wrote: > On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 07:02:00PM -0500, Travis H. wrote: > > On 7/15/06, Ryan McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Root can do stupid things which compromise security. Obfuscation or > > >needles complexity in an attempt to protect yourself from th

Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-18 Thread Travis H.
On 7/18/06, Can Erkin Acar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, needless complexity is a compile time option that makes it impossible to know whether a given installation needs the block rule or not. Good point. packets are sent using bpf(4) so ruleset does not really matter. Every day a school d

Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-18 Thread Can Erkin Acar
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 07:02:00PM -0500, Travis H. wrote: > On 7/15/06, Ryan McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Root can do stupid things which compromise security. Obfuscation or > >needles complexity in an attempt to protect yourself from the root > >account will only make your system less se

Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-16 Thread Travis H.
On 7/15/06, Ryan McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Root can do stupid things which compromise security. Obfuscation or needles complexity in an attempt to protect yourself from the root account will only make your system less secure. If every ruleset needs to put a rule in to default to blocki

Re: pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-15 Thread Ryan McBride
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 09:26:02AM -0500, Travis H. wrote: > On the FreeBSD pf list someone mentioned that they wanted the ability > to have a "default deny" policy with pf, like the old ipf kernel > option. FreeBSD is free to add this option, if they'd like. > That reminded me that I thought the

pf "default deny" compile-time option?

2006-07-15 Thread Travis H.
Hey, On the FreeBSD pf list someone mentioned that they wanted the ability to have a "default deny" policy with pf, like the old ipf kernel option. That reminded me that I thought the same thing when I started with pf. I know, I know, it's not a terribly useful setup until the pass rules get lo