Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Claus Helbing
Andreas Pflug wrote: > Thanks, I appreciate the compliments. It proves that I implemented it > smoothly. You might notice a delay it when you're connected to the > server over a slow line. > > Look at the code if you don't believe that data is really loaded on > demand. Every time a row is touc

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H. Pendleton wrote: Andreas Pflug wrote: Adam, I believe it's time you have a look at the source what's really going on there. The grid doesn't have control over the data, it's pgadmin3 managing it. Yeah, that's a good idea. :-) Not today, though, my head hurts. Besides, I don't rea

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin III bug

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H. Pendleton wrote: On Win32, when using Alt-Tab to switch between programs, pgAdmin III shows up as the generic VB-like white window icon, not the cool elephant. This is on WinXP using last nights snapshot. This is a known issue, if you have any clue why this happens let me know. Regard

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Andreas Pflug wrote: Adam, I believe it's time you have a look at the source what's really going on there. The grid doesn't have control over the data, it's pgadmin3 managing it. Yeah, that's a good idea. :-) Not today, though, my head hurts. Besides, I don't really want to be able to sort

[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin III bug

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
On Win32, when using Alt-Tab to switch between programs, pgAdmin III shows up as the generic VB-like white window icon, not the cool elephant. This is on WinXP using last nights snapshot. ahp ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscr

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Dave Page wrote: Ctrl-A is standard as far as I am aware - I use it all the time in numerous apps. I'll chime in and agree here on Ctrl-A, especially since the same behaviour is supported on Mac with Apple-A. ahp

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Andreas Pflug wrote: You maybe use it in the main edit field, but certainly not in any simple text field! This would be needed to be implemented deep in wxWindows anyway. BTW, mozilla doesn't support this even in the compose window; Ctrl-A is emacs-like "beginning-of-line" Actually, this behav

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread claus
OK ... I surrender on copy / paste and sorting. I promise I will use only "Export data to file" and work the output using M$ Excel ;-p Regards, Claus P.S: But I still like copy / paste ;-)) - Original Message - From: "Andreas Pflug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Claus Helbing" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Andreas Pflug wrote: Claus Helbing wrote: Andreas Pflug wrote: Data is NOT held in the grid, but on the server, and only retrieved when requested, so sorting would require a re-query. Hmm ... you are the developper ... but since I can scroll up and down ... I guess the data is on the c

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread claus
Is there still some hope :-)) Adam H. Pendleton wrote: > I assume when you say that sorting the rows would require a re-query, > you are referring to a new SQL statement with a "ORDER BY" clause. I > think what he's asking for is perfectly do-able without a new query. > Since the rows are sto

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H. Pendleton wrote: I assume when you say that sorting the rows would require a re-query, you are referring to a new SQL statement with a "ORDER BY" clause. I think what he's asking for is perfectly do-able without a new query. Since the rows are stored in a grid control of some sort, th

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
claus wrote: Is there still some hope :-)) Adam H. Pendleton wrote: I assume when you say that sorting the rows would require a re-query, you are referring to a new SQL statement with a "ORDER BY" clause. I think what he's asking for is perfectly do-able without a new query. Since the row

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Andreas Pflug wrote: Adam, this is a waste of time. DATA IS NOT COMPLETELY ON THE CLIENT, as I stated earlier. The grid doesn't have a chance to sort unless all data is loaded, but it's just the special feature that data is *not* loaded completely! What data exactly isn't at the client? If th

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Croatian Native Language Name

2003-08-15 Thread Darko Prenosil
- Original Message - From: "Andreas Pflug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darko Prenosil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Croatian Native Language Name > And as you may guess, my Croatian is... > er... somewhat l

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Adam H. Pendleton
Andreas Pflug wrote: Thanks, I appreciate the compliments. It proves that I implemented it smoothly. You might notice a delay it when you're connected to the server over a slow line. Look at the code if you don't believe that data is really loaded on demand. Every time a row is touched that's

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H. Pendleton wrote: Andreas Pflug wrote: Adam, this is a waste of time. DATA IS NOT COMPLETELY ON THE CLIENT, as I stated earlier. The grid doesn't have a chance to sort unless all data is loaded, but it's just the special feature that data is *not* loaded completely! What data exactly

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread claus
Andreas Pflug wrote: >Data is NOT held in the grid, but on the server, and only retrieved when >requested, so sorting would require a re-query. Hmm ... you are the developper ... but since I can scroll up and down ... I guess the data is on the client somewhere? Also the button refresh and the s

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Adam H. Pendleton wrote: Actually, this behaviour (that is selecting all the text in the current window/field) *is* supported by Mozilla, on ALL platforms, including Linux, Mac, and Windows. On Linux, the key sequence is Alt-A. Mac Command-A. Win Ctrl-A. So Ctrl-A is obviously not standard

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Claus Helbing wrote: Andreas Pflug wrote: Data is NOT held in the grid, but on the server, and only retrieved when requested, so sorting would require a re-query. Hmm ... you are the developper ... but since I can scroll up and down ... I guess the data is on the client somewhere? Also t

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Claus Helbing
Andreas Pflug wrote: >Data is NOT held in the grid, but on the server, and only retrieved when >requested, so sorting would require a re-query. Hmm ... you are the developper ... but since I can scroll up and down ... I guess the data is on the client somewhere? Also the button refresh and the s

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgA3 desktop integration

2003-08-15 Thread Raphaël Enrici
Jean-Michel POURE wrote: On Thursday 14 August 2003 15:59, Raphaël Enrici wrote: did someone on the list made some icons that could be used to integrate pgAdmin3 into our favorites desktops (Gnome, kde and so on) ? I'm currently making some files to add to Debian packages so that pgAdmin become

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
claus wrote: I just stumbled over some other things that seem more likely to be feature requests :-) View Data: Column sort order change by clicking on the column header works in pgadmin II but seems to be absent in pgadmin III. Data is NOT held in the grid, but on the server, and only retrie

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 10:56 > To: Dave Page > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > Do you want to implement CTRL+Windows Key+F in a text control?!? Not unless you w

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: While I'm thinking again about that... We don't really like M$, so we should stick to the global emacs keyboard standard I believe. I'm just reassigning all keyboard mappings for pgAdmin3. Emacs is available on all platforms, so we should adopt that, don't you think? I'm an

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 11:43 > To: Dave Page > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > >>While I'm thinking again about that... We don't

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgA3 desktop integration

2003-08-15 Thread Jean-Michel POURE
On Thursday 14 August 2003 15:59, Raphaël Enrici wrote: > did someone on the list made some icons that could be used to integrate > pgAdmin3 into our favorites desktops (Gnome, kde and so on) ? > I'm currently making some files to add to Debian packages so that > pgAdmin becomes available automatic

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: While I'm thinking again about that... We don't really like M$, so we should stick to the global emacs keyboard standard I believe. I'm just reassigning all keyboard mappings for pgAdmin3. Emacs is available on all platforms, so we should adopt that, don't you think? I'm an old

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Claus Helbing
I just stumbled over some other things that seem more likely to be feature requests :-) View Data: Column sort order change by clicking on the column header works in pgadmin II but seems to be absent in pgadmin III. Ctrl-Shift-End does not work nore does Ctrl-Shift-Home All of the cursor base

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread claus
I just stumbled over some other things that seem more likely to be feature requests :-) View Data: Column sort order change by clicking on the column header works in pgadmin II but seems to be absent in pgadmin III. Ctrl-Shift-End does not work nore does Ctrl-Shift-Home All of the cursor base

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: Not a bug; Ctrl-A is not a standard key for text boxes. Use Home and Shift-End instead. Only STC boxes know this key sequence. If we start implementing every key that STC knows we will go mad. Ctrl-A is standard as far as I am aware - I use it all the time in numerous apps.

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Croatian Native Language Name

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Darko Prenosil wrote: I see that native language name for Croatian is "Hrvatsk". It should be "Hrvatski", that "i" was droped somehow. I do not know if this is my fault or... Hi Darko, it's your fault only in the sense that you didn't supply the language name, so I did from my memory. And as you

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 09:47 > To: Dave Page > Cc: claus; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > Dave Page wrote: > > >>Not a bug; Ctrl-A is not a standard key for text b

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: Actually I do, especially when the content length exceeds the size of the text box. I use very few keys in Windows, but I do use Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-Z and Ctrl-V a great deal. In many ways the keyboard can be quicker than the mouse. I agree, I'm a keyboarder too, but Ctrl

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 10:23 > To: Dave Page > Cc: claus; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > Dave Page wrote: > > > > >Actually I do, especially when the content leng

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Andreas Pflug
Dave Page wrote: I agree, I'm a keyboarder too, but Ctrl-Z isn't a standard text control key either. Only clipboard keys are standard. Depends on your definition of standard I guess: http://www.microsoft.com/enable/products/keyboard/keyboardresults.asp?Product=27 Do you want to imple

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 August 2003 22:22 > To: claus > Cc: Dave Page; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > >>o Help menu - Bugreport - no http link works (do you use the proxy > >>s

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Darko Prenosil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 00:02 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Some remarks to pgadmin III > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Andreas Pflug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "claus" <[EMAI

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Croatian Native Language Name

2003-08-15 Thread Dave Page
Thanks, fixed. > -Original Message- > From: Darko Prenosil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 August 2003 02:10 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [pgadmin-hackers] Croatian Native Language Name > > > I see that native language name for Croatian is "Hrvatsk". It > should be "Hrvatski