Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-26 Thread Dave Page
Hi On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Raffi Holzer wrote: > Hi Dave, > Thanks for the feedback. This is all great! > > We are actually interested in doing a bit more user testing in order to > validate the right solutions and then picking up these features ourselves. > We can definitely still put

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-26 Thread Raffi Holzer
Hi Dave, Thanks for the feedback. This is all great! We are actually interested in doing a bit more user testing in order to validate the right solutions and then picking up these features ourselves. We can definitely still put them in the redmine backlog and pick them up from there though. Looki

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-26 Thread Dave Page
Hi On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Raffi Holzer wrote: > As a summary of our findings in writing: > > Below is a table of user needs we discovered and solutions we or the > customers suggested. Some of the "missing" features people complained about > are not missing at all (such as auto-complet

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Raffi Holzer
As a summary of our findings in writing: Below is a table of user needs we discovered and solutions we or the customers suggested. Some of the "missing" features people complained about are not missing at all (such as auto-complete or syntax highlighting) but the fact that people didn't know about

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Robert Eckhardt
> > My main concern is making the right decisions on what to change, and > focussing efforts in the areas where we gain most benefit. Of course, > the resources to do the work are also critical - the current team > already have a good years worth of work in various additional features > and improve

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Robert Eckhardt wrote: > One of the surprises for me when looking at the interview notes was the > number of features that people asked for that already existed. IMO one of > the wins for design would be making these more easily discovered. As I see > it a lot of t

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Robert Eckhardt
One of the surprises for me when looking at the interview notes was the number of features that people asked for that already existed. IMO one of the wins for design would be making these more easily discovered. As I see it a lot of the design is going to be fairly nuanced and having the conversati

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Raffi Holzer
Hi Dave, We can definitely send a summary via email. Just to clarify those points you brought up. Syntax highlighting definitely does exist and is totally discoverable but people still seemed to miss it. Our best guess as to why so many users miss it is because of the relatively small contrast in

Re: [pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-25 Thread Dave Page
Hi On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Raffi Holzer wrote: > Hi, > As part of a project to enable pgAdmin4 to work with Greenplum databases, > we conducted user research into pgAdmin. We wanted to share those insights > and potentially develop against them but first wanted to get feedback from > th

[pgadmin-hackers] User Research Findings into PgAdmin

2017-01-24 Thread Raffi Holzer
Hi, As part of a project to enable pgAdmin4 to work with Greenplum databases, we conducted user research into pgAdmin. We wanted to share those insights and potentially develop against them but first wanted to get feedback from the pgAdmin group. To that end we created the video below that summari