I have a small tool I have written to do admin work on pg_group. With it I hope we will be able to do most group admin without going into psql. Like I said, it is a first draft, so it may have a bug or two :-) It has the following syntax: usage: pg_group options -- dB group [user ...] || [table ...] where options is one of: -c create group -d delete group -a add user(s) to group -r remove user(s) to group +g give group access to tables -g revoke group access to tables -p privlages to grant/revoke. This is only used with the +g and -g options. -- end of switches. examples: pg_group -c -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr nobody tux pg_group -a -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr webuser pg_group -d -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr pg_group -r -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr nobody pg_group +g -p "insert,select" -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr gstbook pg_group -g -p "insert" -- guestbook grp_gstbook_usr gstbook You can get it from: http://www.lowcountry.com/~jscottb/pg_group.tar.gz If you have any questions, comments, patches or total rewrites email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] scott ************