Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-11 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Robert Haas escribió: >> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> > What I'd be for is breaking the docs out as a separate top-level target, >> > ie "make docs", "make install-docs".  I don't much care for Lou's >> > suggestion

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-11 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas escribió: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > What I'd be for is breaking the docs out as a separate top-level target, > > ie "make docs", "make install-docs".  I don't much care for Lou's > > suggestion of tying it to a configure option because that imposes the > >

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > By splitting out the doc building into a separate target, we will have > less users installing the documentation. I don't see why. And even if it's true, it just means some people were installing the docs "by accident" before even though

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut writes: >> On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: >>> ./configure --no-docs   or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only > >> But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to >> have the docs availabl

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On fre, 2010-03-05 at 08:09 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut writes: > > On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: > >> ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only > > > But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to > > have the docs

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Lou Picciano
obert Haas" , "Joe Conway" , pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 8:09:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required? Peter Eisentraut writes: > On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: >> ./confi

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut writes: > On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: >> ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only > But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to > have the docs available by default, so they can read them. "End users" in th

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: > While I'd agree a 'make all' should, uh... make _all_, and that make > building based on lots of guessing is counterintuitive, an option to > configure like: > > ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only > > - with som

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tor, 2010-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: > I think that the whole idea of make targets building different things > depending on what you've built previously is confusing, > counterintuitive, and illogical. make all should either build the > docs, or not; trying to guess what the user

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Lou Picciano
riginal Message - From: "Robert Haas" To: "Peter Eisentraut" Cc: "Tom Lane" , "Joe Conway" , "Lou Picciano" , pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2010 12:09:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On ons, 2010-02-24 at 12:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> Joe Conway writes: >> > Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development >> > machine that "make install" takes *much* longer, but only sporadically, >> > due to the

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On ons, 2010-02-24 at 12:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Joe Conway writes: > > Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development > > machine that "make install" takes *much* longer, but only sporadically, > > due to the docs building. > > This might be related to Peter's changes t

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Lane
Lou Picciano writes: > Now, you've reminded me of something: That one or more versions of tar have > trouble with very long file/directory names > I've run into this with one of the source trees we've been working in - was > it here in PostgreSQL? Could this be a culprit? I believe we dealt w

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Lou Picciano
From: "Joseph Conway" To: "Tom Lane" Cc: "Peter Eisentraut" , "Lou Picciano" , pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, bsde...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 12:29:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Conway
Tom Lane wrote: > I wrote: >> * $(GENERATED_SGML) is removed by make clean, therefore also by >> make distclean >> Ergo, this type of failure is *guaranteed* when trying to build >> from a distribution tarball. This needs to be rethought. > > I looked at this some more, and this time I noticed th

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > * $(GENERATED_SGML) is removed by make clean, therefore also by > make distclean > Ergo, this type of failure is *guaranteed* when trying to build > from a distribution tarball. This needs to be rethought. I looked at this some more, and this time I noticed that the makefile has .SECO

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: > That doesn't in itself explain a problem with building from the > alpha tarball though. Is it possible there's a clock skew problem > in the tarball's file timestamps? I poked around in the alpha4 tarball and didn't find clock skew. What I found out was that there's some fundamental fu

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Joe Conway writes: > Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development > machine that "make install" takes *much* longer, but only sporadically, > due to the docs building. This might be related to Peter's changes to the docs build procedure. The way things work now is that if

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Joe Conway
On 02/24/2010 08:43 AM, Lou Picciano wrote: > Tom - > > Didn't realize I was arm waving - was I? (Sometimes email falls well > short...) > > We've managed a build of PostgreSQL 9.0-alpha4 - nice! However, the # > make install command apparently(?) hiccups > on a dependency on Jade (we ain't u

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Lou Picciano
rol over docs build in the config script - specific kinds of docs/no docs at all/etc? Thanks for any help, and for the great work! We love PostgreSQL! Lou - Original Message - From: "Tom Lane" To: "Lou Picciano" Cc: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Sent: Wednesda

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Lou Picciano writes: > Not sure it's exactly a bug, but in attempting a compile of > PostgreSQL-9.0alpha, we are getting a choke on jade (don't have jade on this > system) > Can the config script test for jade or, better yet, allow an option to turn > off build of documentation? Would you sh

[BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Lou Picciano
Not sure it's exactly a bug, but in attempting a compile of PostgreSQL-9.0alpha, we are getting a choke on jade (don't have jade on this system) Can the config script test for jade or, better yet, allow an option to turn off build of documentation?