Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-11 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas escribió: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: What I'd be for is breaking the docs out as a separate top-level target, ie make docs, make install-docs.  I don't much care for Lou's suggestion of tying it to a configure option because that imposes

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-11 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote: Robert Haas escribió: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: What I'd be for is breaking the docs out as a separate top-level target, ie make docs, make install-docs.  I don't much

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tor, 2010-03-04 at 12:09 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: I think that the whole idea of make targets building different things depending on what you've built previously is confusing, counterintuitive, and illogical. make all should either build the docs, or not; trying to guess what the user

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: While I'd agree a 'make all' should, uh... make _all_, and that make building based on lots of guessing is counterintuitive, an option to configure like: ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only - with some of

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes: On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to have the docs available by default, so they can read them. End

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Lou Picciano
...@gmail.com, Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 8:09:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required? Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes: On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On fre, 2010-03-05 at 08:09 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes: On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: ./configure --no-docs or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to have the

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net writes: On tor, 2010-03-04 at 17:53 +, Lou Picciano wrote: ./configure --no-docs   or ./configure --with-htmldocs-only But that would be a negative regression for end users, who we want to

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: By splitting out the doc building into a separate target, we will have less users installing the documentation. I don't see why. And even if it's true, it just means some people were installing the docs by accident before

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On ons, 2010-02-24 at 12:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com writes: Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development machine that make install takes *much* longer, but only sporadically, due to the docs building. This might be related to Peter's

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On ons, 2010-02-24 at 12:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com writes: Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development machine that make install takes *much* longer, but only

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-03-04 Thread Lou Picciano
: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On ons, 2010-02-24 at 12:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com writes: Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development machine

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: * $(GENERATED_SGML) is removed by make clean, therefore also by make distclean Ergo, this type of failure is *guaranteed* when trying to build from a distribution tarball. This needs to be rethought. I looked at this some more, and this time I noticed that the makefile has

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Conway
Tom Lane wrote: I wrote: * $(GENERATED_SGML) is removed by make clean, therefore also by make distclean Ergo, this type of failure is *guaranteed* when trying to build from a distribution tarball. This needs to be rethought. I looked at this some more, and this time I noticed that the

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Lou Picciano
Conway m...@joeconway.com To: Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us Cc: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net, Lou Picciano loupicci...@comcast.net, pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org, bsde...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 12:29:43 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Lane
Lou Picciano loupicci...@comcast.net writes: Now, you've reminded me of something: That one or more versions of tar have trouble with very long file/directory names I've run into this with one of the source trees we've been working in - was it here in PostgreSQL? Could this be a culprit?

[BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Lou Picciano
Not sure it's exactly a bug, but in attempting a compile of PostgreSQL-9.0alpha, we are getting a choke on jade (don't have jade on this system) Can the config script test for jade or, better yet, allow an option to turn off build of documentation?

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Lou Picciano loupicci...@comcast.net writes: Not sure it's exactly a bug, but in attempting a compile of PostgreSQL-9.0alpha, we are getting a choke on jade (don't have jade on this system) Can the config script test for jade or, better yet, allow an option to turn off build of

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Lou Picciano
US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required? Lou Picciano loupicci...@comcast.net writes: Not sure it's exactly a bug, but in attempting a compile of PostgreSQL-9.0alpha, we are getting a choke on jade (don't have jade on this system) Can the config script test

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Joe Conway
On 02/24/2010 08:43 AM, Lou Picciano wrote: Tom - Didn't realize I was arm waving - was I? (Sometimes email falls well short...) We've managed a build of PostgreSQL 9.0-alpha4 - nice! However, the # make install command apparently(?) hiccups on a dependency on Jade (we ain't usin'

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com writes: Related to this I have noticed in recent weeks on my own development machine that make install takes *much* longer, but only sporadically, due to the docs building. This might be related to Peter's changes to the docs build procedure. The way things work

Re: [BUGS] PostgreSQL-9.0alpha: jade required?

2010-02-24 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote: That doesn't in itself explain a problem with building from the alpha tarball though. Is it possible there's a clock skew problem in the tarball's file timestamps? I poked around in the alpha4 tarball and didn't find clock skew. What I found out was that there's some fundamental