Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > +1/2 (Since I don't like inheritence) > > > > IMHO we ought to try to keep the _tutorial_ free of things that are > > generally considered against relational design. > > Where is it written that inheritance is against relational design?

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:03:30AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: > > Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > +1/2 (Since I don't like inheritence) > > > > > > IMHO we ought to try to keep the _tutorial_ free of things that > > > are generally considered against relational

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:31:47PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What *is* broken is table inheritance, and the docs need to reflect > > this. > > The combination of inheritance with certain other features is broken, > yes, and the docs do reflect that (see

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread Tom Lane
David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What *is* broken is table inheritance, and the docs need to reflect > this. The combination of inheritance with certain other features is broken, yes, and the docs do reflect that (see the bottom of http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/static/ddl-inherit.h

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread Tom Lane
David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't consider the concept broken. The implementation is, in fact, > broken, and putting that broken piece in the tutorial is, imnsho, a > bad mistake. If we're going to remove from the tutorial every feature for which any aspect is deemed by someone t

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 01:25:56PM -0700, elein wrote: > Perhaps after OSCON I can work with fetter on getting the > documentation clarified. OK? Sounds like fun. There are all kinds of object-relational concepts other than this broken piece. Which ones are good to highlight in that tutorial?

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:30:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't consider the concept broken. The implementation is, in > > fact, broken, and putting that broken piece in the tutorial is, > > imnsho, a bad mistake. > > If we're going to remove from

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread Tom Lane
David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:30:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> If we're going to remove from the tutorial every feature for which >> any aspect is deemed by someone to be broken, the tutorial is liable >> to become quite short. > Are there other pieces that

Re: [DOCS] [HACKERS] Tutorial

2004-07-23 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:58:55PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > David Fetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 04:30:40PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> If we're going to remove from the tutorial every feature for > >> which any aspect is deemed by someone to be broken, the tutorial