Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-19 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
> > In part 1. Differences in MVCC implementation - he's saying that "It’s > > not that the PostgreSQL implementation of MVCC is bad — it’s just > > fundamentally different" > It is written by someone @firebirdsql.org so one assumes a few grains of salt > necessary. I know - but the guy does st

MVCC and all that...

2025-09-17 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
Reading this article https://firebirdsql.org/migrating-from-firebird-to-postgresql-what-can-go-wrong- I'm a bit confused (not the first time...) In part 1. Differences in MVCC implementation - he's saying that "It’s not that the PostgreSQL implementation of MVCC is bad — it’s just fundamentally di

Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-12 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
You, (Merlin Moncure) said: > Technical discussions from the 80's are more or less historically interesting > only. I agree with your technical points - and the fact that I brought up "history". I was replying to Justin in this context: I wrote: > AIUI, Michael Stonebraker suggested that the

Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-11 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
>> AIUI, Michael Stonebraker suggested that the process model >> would/should be "upgraded" to a threaded one at some point in the >> system's developement? > I am going to need a source on this. Process vs Threads: pro and cons are > very well documented and proven today. Ask, and it will be

Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-10 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
> Though I would like to know what happened in mid 2010?: > https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird/graphs/contributors Yes, indeed, WTF? I'm not a member of the FB Illuminati - so I can't say! > > OK again. I'm just wondering if the single file per database isn't a > > fundamental architectural

Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-10 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
Hi, and thanks for your input, Just before I reply - if you (at least here in Ireland - Google's answers vary per location, unlike Duckduckgo's) search for "firebird mvcc mechanism" the "AI assistant" tells me twice that FB's MVCC implementation is "like PostgreSQL's"... I'll investigate further a

Re: MVCC and all that...

2025-09-09 Thread Ellen Allhatatlan
> Note: your link is wrong, corrected here: Extra hyphen - sorry about and thanks for pointing it out! > What the article is driving at is that postgres does not use rollback logs to > handle updated records in the MVCC implementation. There are absolutely > performance tradeoffs in that decis