Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-08-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:57:40AM +0200, Vincenzo Campanella wrote: > Il 16.07.2018 11:41, Albrecht Dreß ha scritto: > >Am 16.07.18 00:14 schrieb(en) Tim Cross: > >>>Thank you for the point. I'm the C++ programmer and I'm author of the > >>>C++ client library for PostgreSQL - Pgfe and I'm going

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-19 Thread Chris
Hi Dmitry, I think this a wonderful idea, but it will be tough. Share my experience: —dbeaver: It is for multi-platform so it is just for use, no particular function, also there is more bugs(our company had changed some of them). dbeaver is likely the most open source app form

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Tim Cross
Dmitry Igrishin writes: > пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 1:14, Tim Cross : > >> >> Your idea to make it integrate with user's preferred editor is a good >> idea as editors are like opinions and certain anatomical parts - >> everyone has one! Finding an appropriate API to do this will be a >> challenge.

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Tim Clarke
Ah thanks, I stand corected! :) Tim Clarke On 16/07/18 15:04, Josef Šimánek wrote: > It is licensed under MIT - https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode. > > 2018-07-16 13:09 GMT+02:00 Tim Clarke : >> -1 for VSC not being open source >> >> Tim Clarke >> >>

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Josef Šimánek
It is licensed under MIT - https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode. 2018-07-16 13:09 GMT+02:00 Tim Clarke : > -1 for VSC not being open source > > Tim Clarke > > > On 16/07/18 11:47, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: >> >> >> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 13:41, Tim Clarke >> >

RE: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Chris Coutinho
: maandag 16 juli 2018 13:09 To: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org Cc: Dmitry Igrishin Subject: Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL? -1 for VSC not being open source Tim Clarke On 16/07/18 11:47, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: > > > пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 1

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Tim Clarke
-1 for VSC not being open source Tim Clarke On 16/07/18 11:47, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: > > > пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 13:41, Tim Clarke > >: > > +1 for not re-inventing the wheel - building on Netbeans or the > Eclipse > project would save you

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Pavel Stehule
2018-07-16 15:22 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : > > > пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 16:00, Pavel Stehule : > >> >> >> 2018-07-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : >> >>> >>> >>> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 15:01, Pavel Stehule : >>> 2018-07-16 13:52 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : > >

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 16:00, Pavel Stehule : > > > 2018-07-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : > >> >> >> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 15:01, Pavel Stehule : >> >>> >>> >>> 2018-07-16 13:52 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : >>> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 14:26, : > We – and the majority of

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Pavel Stehule
2018-07-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : > > > пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 15:01, Pavel Stehule : > >> >> >> 2018-07-16 13:52 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : >> >>> >>> >>> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 14:26, : >>> We – and the majority of our customers - are mainly focused on Windows. We use

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 15:01, Pavel Stehule : > > > 2018-07-16 13:52 GMT+02:00 Dmitry Igrishin : > >> >> >> пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 14:26, : >> >>> We – and the majority of our customers - are mainly focused on Windows. >>> We use pgadmin iii and our own assistants. pgadmin iv ist still too slow on

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Pavel Stehule
can be pretty hard to write it. p.s. IDE for developers is some different than admin tool for administrators. Should be decided what is target. Pavel > >> >> Regards Klaus >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* Dmitry Igrishin >> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 15. Juli 201

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
> > Regards Klaus > > > > > > *Von:* Dmitry Igrishin > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018 18:59 > *An:* pgsql-gene...@postgresql.org > *Betreff:* Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for > PostgreSQL? > > > > Hello all, >

AW: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread kpi6288
would be royalty free distribution to our customers. It should however provide the functions of pgadmin iii. Regards Klaus Von: Dmitry Igrishin Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018 18:59 An: pgsql-gene...@postgresql.org Betreff: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Tim Clarke schrieb am 16.07.2018 um 11:52: > +1 for not re-inventing the wheel - building on Netbeans or the Eclipse > project would save you heaps of time and effort and provide > cross-platform out of the box. I use Eclipse all the time. The NetBeans platform (and Eclipse as well) is based on

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 13:41, Tim Clarke : > +1 for not re-inventing the wheel - building on Netbeans or the Eclipse > project would save you heaps of time and effort and provide > cross-platform out of the box. I use Eclipse all the time. > I agree and don't want to waste my time for reinventing

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Tim Clarke
+1 for not re-inventing the wheel - building on Netbeans or the Eclipse project would save you heaps of time and effort and provide cross-platform out of the box. I use Eclipse all the time. Tim Clarke On 15/07/18 20:41, Chuck Davis wrote: > If you decide to proceed on this project there's no

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Vincenzo Campanella
Il 16.07.2018 11:41, Albrecht Dreß ha scritto: Am 16.07.18 00:14 schrieb(en) Tim Cross: Thank you for the point. I'm the C++ programmer and I'm author of the C++ client library for PostgreSQL - Pgfe and I'm going to use it in this project. But I'm not sure about the cross-platform GUI toolkit.

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 12:41, Albrecht Dreß : > Am 16.07.18 00:14 schrieb(en) Tim Cross: > >> Thank you for the point. I'm the C++ programmer and I'm author of the > C++ client library for PostgreSQL - Pgfe and I'm going to use it in this > project. But I'm not sure about the cross-platform GUI

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Albrecht Dreß
Am 16.07.18 00:14 schrieb(en) Tim Cross: Thank you for the point. I'm the C++ programmer and I'm author of the C++ client library for PostgreSQL - Pgfe and I'm going to use it in this project. But I'm not sure about the cross-platform GUI toolkit. The cross-platform GUI toolkit will be the

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-16 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 2:15, Christophe Pettus : > > > On Jul 15, 2018, at 16:06, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: > > > > The cross-platform GUI toolkit will be the challenge. > > This is why I've consider GUI for the Windows only. And if I'll not find > an adequate GUI > > toolkit (at reasonable price

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Christophe Pettus
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 16:06, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: > > The cross-platform GUI toolkit will be the challenge. > This is why I've consider GUI for the Windows only. And if I'll not find an > adequate GUI > toolkit (at reasonable price and/or license), there is an option to make the > GUI

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
пн, 16 июл. 2018 г. в 1:14, Tim Cross : > > Dmitry Igrishin writes: > > > вс, 15 июл. 2018 г. в 22:42, Chuck Davis : > > > >> If you decide to proceed on this project there's no need to reinvent the > >> wheel. > >> > >> I use Netbeans for my development. it has quite a good facility for > >>

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Tim Cross
Dmitry Igrishin writes: > вс, 15 июл. 2018 г. в 22:42, Chuck Davis : > >> If you decide to proceed on this project there's no need to reinvent the >> wheel. >> >> I use Netbeans for my development. it has quite a good facility for >> working with databases and I use it regularly with

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
вс, 15 июл. 2018 г. в 23:51, Ravi Krishna : > 1. dbeaver covers many DBMS and even nosql. Many shops are not one > product specific. That is definitely a plus. > On the other hand it is hard to support unique features of PostgreSQL in a tool that attempts to cover all the world. I can't say

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Ravi Krishna
1. dbeaver covers many DBMS and even nosql. Many shops are not one product specific. That is definitely a plus. 2. Lightweight tool which can run even from command line will be a plus for the product you are thinking to develop. 3. Who cares in what language it is developed? We are a dbeaver

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
вс, 15 июл. 2018 г. в 23:05, Ravi Krishna : > What would this new IDE offer which a product like dbeaver does not have. > AFAIK, DBeaver: - covers many DBMS (I want to focus on PostgreSQL); - full fledged IDE with feature rich editor (I want a lightweight tool that can be used from

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
вс, 15 июл. 2018 г. в 22:42, Chuck Davis : > If you decide to proceed on this project there's no need to reinvent the > wheel. > > I use Netbeans for my development. it has quite a good facility for > working with databases and I use it regularly with Postgres. Since > Netbeans is now licensed

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Ravi Krishna
What would this new IDE offer which a product like dbeaver does not have. --Sent from phone.

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread marcelo
For windows platforms only, there is https://www.sqlmanager.net/products/postgresql/manager/ which in Lite version is free. I use it near daily and works like a charm. On 15/07/2018 16:08 , Dmitry Igrishin wrote: Thank you all for your responses! Okay, if I decide to start this project, the

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Chuck Davis
If you decide to proceed on this project there's no need to reinvent the wheel. I use Netbeans for my development. it has quite a good facility for working with databases and I use it regularly with Postgres. Since Netbeans is now licensed under Apache 2 you might find useful code there. Be

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 15/07/18 20:08, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: Thank you all for your responses! Okay, if I decide to start this project, the Linux platform will be supported. As I see it, pgspa (PostgreSQL Server Programming Assistant) should have both the command line interface, and the GUI for visualizing

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
Thank you all for your responses! Okay, if I decide to start this project, the Linux platform will be supported. As I see it, pgspa (PostgreSQL Server Programming Assistant) should have both the command line interface, and the GUI for visualizing some aspects of the work. The tool should be

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Chuck Davis
I use Linux exclusively in my business and for development. There is no room in the world these days for a Windows-only product. If people choose to use Microsoft platforms they should expect to purchase Microsoft licenses for their needs. That said, a good, cross-platform tool for Postgresql

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread James Keener
Being libre software that doesn't necessitate a closed source operating system. Jim On July 15, 2018 12:59:08 PM EDT, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: >Hello all, > >Colleagues. There is an idea to develop a commercial IDE for PostgreSQL >under Windows. >At the initial stage, not so much an IDE, as an

Re: Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Benjamin Scherrey
Linux compatibility. :-) Seriously. Our organization does not use Windows anywhere and we're a serious Postgres shop. -- Ben Scherrey On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:59 PM, Dmitry Igrishin wrote: > Hello all, > > Colleagues. There is an idea to develop a commercial IDE for PostgreSQL > under

Do we need yet another IDE (SQL development assistant) for PostgreSQL?

2018-07-15 Thread Dmitry Igrishin
Hello all, Colleagues. There is an idea to develop a commercial IDE for PostgreSQL under Windows. At the initial stage, not so much an IDE, as an assistant for the server side development. What features would you like to see in such an instrument? Thanks.