Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-22 Thread John the Scott
> Posts should be technically and factually correct agreed and period. no need qualify how the nonsense was created. -john On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 4:13 PM Robert Treat wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 8:33 AM Greg Sabino Mullane > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 12:45 PM Avinash Val

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-22 Thread Robert Treat
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 8:33 AM Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 12:45 PM Avinash Vallarapu > wrote: >> >> However, I do agree with Lawrence that it is impossible to prove whether it >> is written by AI or a human. >> AI can make mistakes and it might mistakenly point out

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-20 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 02:19:22AM +1000, Justin Clift wrote: > On 2024-08-20 22:44, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:22 AM Laurenz Albe > > wrote: > > > > > Why not say that authors who repeatedly post grossly counterfactual or > > > misleading content can be banned? > >

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-20 Thread Justin Clift
On 2024-08-20 22:44, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:22 AM Laurenz Albe wrote: Why not say that authors who repeatedly post grossly counterfactual or misleading content can be banned? I like this, and feel we are getting closer. How about: "Posts should be technically a

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-20 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:22 AM Laurenz Albe wrote: > Why not say that authors who repeatedly post grossly counterfactual or > misleading content can be banned? > I like this, and feel we are getting closer. How about: "Posts should be technically and factually correct. Use of AI should be used

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-08-20 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 12:45 PM Avinash Vallarapu < avinash.vallar...@gmail.com> wrote: > However, I do agree with Lawrence that it is impossible to prove whether > it is written by AI or a human. > AI can make mistakes and it might mistakenly point out that a blog is > written by AI (which I kno

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-23 Thread Avinash Vallarapu
Hi, As someone who has taken days to publish each blog upon so many reviews, corrections and edits while attempting to make it as best/informative and as perfect as possible, it might seem slightly frustrating when we see some AI generated content, especially when it is misleading readers. Howeve

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-23 Thread Laurenz Albe
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 10:38 -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > Why not say that authors who repeatedly post grossly counterfactual or > > misleading content can be banned? > > Perhaps as you hint at, we need a policy to not just discourage AI-generated > things, but also wrong/misleading things

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-23 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:22 AM Laurenz Albe wrote: > I have no problem with that definition, but it is useless as a policy: > Even in a blog with glaring AI nonsense in it, how can you prove that the > author did not actually edit and improve other significant parts of the > text? > Well, we ca

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-19 Thread Laurenz Albe
On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 10:25 -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > But to what degree exactly should that be allowed? > > Somewhat ironically, here's a distinction chatgpt and I came up with: > > LLM-generated content: Content where the substantial part of the text is > directly > created by LLMs

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-18 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
> But to what degree exactly should that be allowed? Somewhat ironically, here's a distinction chatgpt and I came up with: LLM-generated content: Content where the substantial part of the text is directly created by LLMs without significant human alteration or editing. Human-edited or reviewed c

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-18 Thread David Rowley
On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 at 00:31, Laurenz Albe wrote: > Perhaps there could be a way to report misleading, bad content and a policy > that says > that you can be banned if you repeatedly write grossly misleading and > counterfactual > content. Stuff like "to improve performance, set fast_mode = on

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-18 Thread Laurenz Albe
I wrote: > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:21 -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > I've been noticing a growing trend of blog posts written mostly, if not > > entirely, with AI > > (aka LLMs, ChatGPT, etc.). I'm not sure where to raise this issue. I > > considered a blog post, > > but this mailing list

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-18 Thread Laurenz Albe
On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 13:21 -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > I've been noticing a growing trend of blog posts written mostly, if not > entirely, with AI > (aka LLMs, ChatGPT, etc.). I'm not sure where to raise this issue. I > considered a blog post, > but this mailing list seemed a better foru

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-17 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 7/17/24 10:21, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: I've been noticing a growing trend of blog posts written mostly, if not entirely, with AI (aka LLMs, ChatGPT, etc.). I'm not sure where to raise this issue. I considered a blog post, but this mailing list seemed a better forum to generate a discussio

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-17 Thread Kashif Zeeshan
Hi Greg I agree with you on the misuse of AI based tools, as per my experience with Postgres the solutions suggested wont work at times. Its not bad to get help from these tools but put all the solutions from there is counter productive. I think People should take care while using these tools whil

Re: Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-17 Thread Pavel Stehule
st 17. 7. 2024 v 19:22 odesílatel Greg Sabino Mullane napsal: > I've been noticing a growing trend of blog posts written mostly, if not > entirely, with AI (aka LLMs, ChatGPT, etc.). I'm not sure where to raise > this issue. I considered a blog post, but this mailing list seemed a better > forum

Planet Postgres and the curse of AI

2024-07-17 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
I've been noticing a growing trend of blog posts written mostly, if not entirely, with AI (aka LLMs, ChatGPT, etc.). I'm not sure where to raise this issue. I considered a blog post, but this mailing list seemed a better forum to generate a discussion. The problem is two-fold as I see it. First,