Re: [GENERAL] not able to connect to Database

2005-04-01 Thread Richard Huxton
Nageshwar Rao wrote: Hi, Psql -l gives names of databases in which it does not show test. But same test I am still able to access through pgAdmin III utility. You must be looking at two different installations. Check your connection settings in pgadmin. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread frank
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 12:54:28AM -0600, Guy Rouillier wrote: [] The service_plane table is a reference table, i.e., a fixed set of values used only to validate foreign keys. So the code doesn't have any update statements on that table. And idea that just came up around here that sounds like

: [GENERAL] Postgres IX

2005-04-01 Thread Shaun Clements
Title: : [GENERAL] Postgres IX Can someone please explain to me , the use of snip CONSTRAINT ix_tablename /snip Kind Regards, Shaun Clements

[GENERAL] PL/PERL with composite return values PGSQL 7.4?

2005-04-01 Thread Philippe Lang
Hi, Documentation mentions that PGSQL 8 supports a version of PL/PERL with composite return values. Is there a way to install this new version of PL/PERL on an old 7.4 database, or is it absolutely necessary to upgrade? Thanks Philippe Lang ---(end of

Re: [GENERAL] Help with converting hexadecimal to decimal

2005-04-01 Thread Dawid Kuroczko
On 31 Mar 2005 21:22:12 -0600, Doug Quale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I basically want to convert a a hexadecimal to a decimal. Sure: test= SELECT x'10'::integer; int4 -- 16 (1 row) Oh, some time ago I was looking for such a function and somehow

FW: [GENERAL] Help with order by into a RECORD

2005-04-01 Thread Shaun Clements
Title: FW: [GENERAL] Help with order by into a RECORD Hi I have a questions regarding my order by problem. If you index a table, can you query the table using ORDER BY. ? Kind Regards, Shaun Clements

Re: : [GENERAL] Postgres IX

2005-04-01 Thread Richard Huxton
Shaun Clements wrote: Or better yet. Can anyone explain the use of indexing, effecting the performance of select query, using INDEXED columns, and non indexed columns. I.E. Select from table where column1 = '' and column2 = 'x' WHERE COLUMN1 is indexed, and COLUMN2 isnt. Well, if PG

Re: [GENERAL] Help with order by into a RECORD

2005-04-01 Thread GIROIRE Nicolas (COFRAMI)
Title: FW: [GENERAL] Help with order by into a RECORD Yes, you can use ORDER BY on the table whiwh have an or several index. Index allows to save time during execution of request. -Message d'origine-De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]De la part de Shaun

Re: [GENERAL] Help with order by into a RECORD

2005-04-01 Thread Richard Huxton
Shaun Clements wrote: Hi Richard I have a questions regarding my order by problem. If you index a table, can you query the table using ORDER BY. ? You can ORDER BY any combination of columns/expressions, whether they are indexed or not. An index may make things quicker (it isn't guaranteed to do

Re: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering

2005-04-01 Thread Shaun Clements
Title: RE: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering Hi Again. I hope you can explain this. I have a stored procedure which does a query of a table using order by, into a RECORD. The statement I mentioned earlier, is a FOR IN. the data stored into the RECORD, is not ordered

Re: [GENERAL] Temporary Tables

2005-04-01 Thread Alban Hertroys
Joseph M. Day wrote: Just out of curiosity, what is the performance of this? In MSSQL the only way to do something equivalent to this was to use a cursor. Cursors are painfully slow, so they are to be used as a last resort. On what do you base that cursors are slow? -- Alban Hertroys

Re: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering

2005-04-01 Thread Shaun Clements
Title: RE: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering RESOLVED. It must be a bug in 7.3 I resolved the problem, by changing the FOR IN statement to FOR IN EXECUTE. By changing the Statement into a string, it accommodated for the ORDER BY. Thanks for all your responses.

[GENERAL] inherited type

2005-04-01 Thread Miguel Angel Tribaldos Hervas
Hi, I am working with inheritance in postgresql 7.4. If I create a table named A, and another named B that inherits from A, if I perform a query such a SELECT * FROM A (without ONLY clause), how can I get the type (identifier from pg_type) of the returned records?? Thanks in advance. --

Re: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering

2005-04-01 Thread Shaun Clements
Title: RE: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering Ignore last email. must have been delayed. Kind Regards,Shaun Clements -Original Message-From: Shaun Clements [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 12:22 PMTo: 'Richard Huxton'Cc: PostgreSQL

[GENERAL] Tracing Backend process

2005-04-01 Thread Mr Muralidharan Ramakrishnan
Hi, Is there any utility to trace the PostgreSQL backend activities like profiler in MS-SQL or any other related tool. Thanking you Regards, R.Muralidharan Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun.

Re: [GENERAL] Tracing Backend process

2005-04-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Mr Muralidharan Ramakrishnan wrote: Hi, Is there any utility to trace the PostgreSQL backend activities like profiler in MS-SQL or any other related tool. What information does MS-SQL profiler show? -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us

[GENERAL] [Fwd: [webmaster] in Search of free hosting with PostgreSQL]

2005-04-01 Thread Robert Treat
-Forwarded Message- From: Przymuszala Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [webmaster] in Search of free hosting with PostgreSQL Date: 30 Mar 2005 09:45:59 +0200 Hello! I'm from Hungary where the free webhosting servicers have only MySql. Thats while I need

Re: [GENERAL] your thoughts on a crazy idea please

2005-04-01 Thread Richard_D_Levine
As an academic exercise it would be interesting to try and create the *next* RDBMS query language. In a production environment I do think the idea is crazy. I've got a little experience with this. Interbase used to support a more procedural query language called GDML (along with SQL). I used

Re: [GENERAL] [Fwd: [webmaster] in Search of free hosting with PostgreSQL]

2005-04-01 Thread Jaqui Greenlees
Robert Treat wrote: -Forwarded Message- From: Przymuszala Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [webmaster] in Search of free hosting with PostgreSQL Date: 30 Mar 2005 09:45:59 +0200 Hello! I'm from Hungary where the free webhosting servicers have only MySql. Thats while

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:37:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And idea that just came up around here that sounds like a pretty neat workaround, which we're gonna try, is to drop the foreign key constraints, and just use a check constraint for the allowed values. If the cardinality of

Re: [GENERAL] FW: Help with order by into a RECORD

2005-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:42:35 +0200, Shaun Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a questions regarding my order by problem. If you index a table, can you query the table using ORDER BY. ? Whether or not a table is indexed doesn't affect whether or not you can use ORDER BY. It may

Re: [GENERAL] PL/PERL with composite return values PGSQL 7.4?

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Philippe Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Documentation mentions that PGSQL 8 supports a version of PL/PERL with composite return values. Is there a way to install this new version of PL/PERL on an old 7.4 database, No. The rest of it might work, but not that feature, at least not without

Re: [GENERAL] inherited type

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Miguel Angel Tribaldos Hervas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am working with inheritance in postgresql 7.4. If I create a table named A, and another named B that inherits from A, if I perform a query such a SELECT * FROM A (without ONLY clause), how can I get the type (identifier from pg_type) of

Re: [GENERAL] importance of bgwriter_percent

2005-04-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 00:36, vinita bansal wrote: Hi, I have a 64 bit Linux box with 64GB RAM and 450GB HDD. I am running a benchmark on database of size 40GB using the following settings: - data=writeback You might want to read this post about ext3 with writeback:

Re: [GENERAL] inherited type

2005-04-01 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:42:19PM +0200, Miguel Angel Tribaldos Hervas wrote: I am working with inheritance in postgresql 7.4. If I create a table named A, and another named B that inherits from A, if I perform a query such a SELECT * FROM A (without ONLY clause), how can I get the type

[GENERAL] Inheritance and such

2005-04-01 Thread John Hughes
Hi everyone, I ran into a brick wall when I realized that inheritance in postgres isnt really there... Here's a description of the relevant part of my schema. CREATE TABLE base ( id serial not null primary key, some base columns ); CREATE TABLE specialized ( some specialized columns )

[GENERAL] Best practices for (plpgsql ?) trigger optimization?

2005-04-01 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Hi, Are there any best practices for optimizing triggers, and, I suppose, stored procedures as well? I am now starting on optimization and before I begin am hoping to avoid re-inventing the wheel. The problems I see are: 1) There is no way to profile where a problem lies. When there are large

Re: [GENERAL] Help with converting hexadecimal to decimal

2005-04-01 Thread Chandra Sekhar Surapaneni
That's exactly what I am looking for. Thank you Dawid and everyone for your help. Regards chandu -Original Message- From: Dawid Kuroczko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:28 AM To: Doug Quale Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Help with

Re: [GENERAL] Temporary Tables

2005-04-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 04:32, Alban Hertroys wrote: Joseph M. Day wrote: Just out of curiosity, what is the performance of this? In MSSQL the only way to do something equivalent to this was to use a cursor. Cursors are painfully slow, so they are to be used as a last resort. On what do

Re: : [GENERAL] Postgres order by into a RECORD, not ordering

2005-04-01 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:36:53PM +0200, Shaun Clements wrote: RESOLVED. It must be a bug in 7.3 Before reaching that conclusion, let's see what you were doing. I resolved the problem, by changing the FOR IN statement to FOR IN EXECUTE. By changing the Statement into a string, it

[GENERAL] diskspace usage recovered on db rebuild

2005-04-01 Thread David Link
Greetings worthymen. I have a question regarding filesystem disk space usage. We have a production database containing 5 years of sales data. Linux 2.6.5; Postgresq 7.4.7. VACUUM ANALZYE the entire database everynight (about 40min). It's size, @SUM(pg_class.relpages) * 8192K, is ... About 66

Re: [GENERAL] diskspace usage recovered on db rebuild

2005-04-01 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Apr 1, 2005 9:21 AM, David Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings worthymen. I have a question regarding filesystem disk space usage. We have a production database containing 5 years of sales data. Linux 2.6.5; Postgresq 7.4.7. VACUUM ANALZYE the entire database everynight (about

Re: [GENERAL] Best practices for (plpgsql ?) trigger optimization?

2005-04-01 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 04/01/2005 10:19:55 AM, Karl O. Pinc wrote: Hi, Are there any best practices for optimizing triggers, and, I suppose, stored procedures as well? The solutions I see are to use: SET client_min_messages DEBUG1; SET debug_print_plan TRUE; and maybe SET log_executer_stats TRUE; Ok, this strategy

Re: [GENERAL] diskspace usage recovered on db rebuild

2005-04-01 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 11:21, David Link wrote: Greetings worthymen. I have a question regarding filesystem disk space usage. We have a production database containing 5 years of sales data. Linux 2.6.5; Postgresq 7.4.7. VACUUM ANALZYE the entire database everynight (about 40min). It's

Re: [GENERAL] importance of bgwriter_percent

2005-04-01 Thread vinita bansal
Hi, I have not tried all the settings on the big database but yeah I have tried most of the settings and I am not seeing any performance improvement. Rather I would say that there was a performance degradation in my case when I used some of the settings used for small database (like decreasing

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Peter Childs
David Fetter wrote: == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 == As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries, is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular GPL. Fine I can't see the difference, but have you not got to clear this with every

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Nic Ferrier
Peter Childs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad? I see a postpostgres on the horizon. What time zone are you in? Think about the date. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Martín Marqués
El Vie 01 Abr 2005 17:00, Peter Childs escribió: David Fetter wrote: == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 == As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries, is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular GPL. Fine I can't see the

[GENERAL] case sensitive group by

2005-04-01 Thread Krause, Lewis
Is there a way to do a case sensitive group by. Thanks. Lewie

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:15PM +0100, Peter Childs wrote: David Fetter wrote: == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 == As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries, is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular GPL. Fine I

Re: [GENERAL] case sensitive group by

2005-04-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 14:00:40 -0700, Krause, Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to do a case sensitive group by. It should be that way by default. If you want case insensitive, then you can group by lower(whatever). ---(end of

[GENERAL] Insert without duplicates

2005-04-01 Thread John Burger
Hi - This has been covered elsewhere, but the typical answers seem to involve using triggers, etc. What's the best way to insert a row into a table providing it's not already there? In my client (Python) program, I can do two separate interactions with the server, the first a query: select

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jim C. Nasby wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:15PM +0100, Peter Childs wrote: David Fetter wrote: == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 == As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries, is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread Vivek Khera
On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Peter Childs wrote: Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad? I see a postpostgres on the horizon. no, dave broke tradition and posted an entirely factual newsletter on april 1. I think he should lose his job for that. :-)

Re: [GENERAL] [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

2005-04-01 Thread elein
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:20:01PM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote: On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Peter Childs wrote: Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad? I see a postpostgres on the horizon. no, dave broke tradition and posted an entirely factual newsletter on

Re: [GENERAL] SELECT INTO Array?

2005-04-01 Thread Zitan Broth
Hi Michael, Thanks a lot for your response. Basically I am selecting out one row from the database with multiple columns (should have told you that earlier) so it seems that unfortunately your elegant approach below might not work. Although some of the columns are text and some numeric I was

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Paul Tillotson
Alvaro, I suppose there must be reasons not to do this, but have you considered using the slack space (empty space) in an ordinary table heap page to store share-locks on the tuples in that page? (If not enough space is available then you would still need to use the spilled-to-disk btree

Re: [GENERAL] SELECT INTO Array?

2005-04-01 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 12:29:15PM +1200, Zitan Broth wrote: Basically I am selecting out one row from the database with multiple columns (should have told you that earlier) so it seems that unfortunately your elegant approach below might not work. Although some of the columns are text and

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:41:54PM -0500, Paul Tillotson wrote: Hi, I suppose there must be reasons not to do this, but have you considered using the slack space (empty space) in an ordinary table heap page to store share-locks on the tuples in that page? (If not enough space is

Re: [GENERAL] SELECT INTO Array?

2005-04-01 Thread Zitan Broth
Hi Michael, Good question :-) I am writing a function that has a row of data passed into it as variables and an ID. The function needs to pull out the appropriate row of data and compare each data item which those passed in. For each found difference a log row is written somewhere else and if

Re: [GENERAL] 8.0.2 Beta Available

2005-04-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems HISTORY has not been updated yet. Is this intended? Someone (probably Bruce or me) will do release notes before the release. This is just a beta to find out if we broke anything ... 8.0.2 release notes are updated. --

[GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed just like any other pl language. Are we interested in having plPHP in core? Sincerely, Joshua

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Paul Tillotson
I suppose there must be reasons not to do this, but have you considered using the slack space (empty space) in an ordinary table heap page to store share-locks on the tuples in that page? (If not enough space is available then you would still need to use the spilled-to-disk btree structure.)

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed just like any other pl language. Are we interested in

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:14:07PM -0500, Paul Tillotson wrote: Would it work for an updater, who finds that the locks list (currently located in the middle of the empty space) is in the way of a new tuple that he wants to insert, to take some kind of lock, move the whole list up or down

Re: [GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:11:14PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hi Joshua, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed just like any

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:14:07PM -0500, Paul Tillotson wrote: ... Well, at that point you need to take a lock in order to be able to manage locks. Managing not to step on your own feet in that scenario is complex, to say the least, if not downright

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Greg Stark
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:14:07PM -0500, Paul Tillotson wrote: ... Well, at that point you need to take a lock in order to be able to manage locks. Managing not to step on your own feet in that scenario is

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed just like any other pl language. Are we interested

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Are we interested in having plPHP in core? Is there a reason why it can no longer operate as a standalone language out of pgfoundry, like pl/java and pl/perl? PLs are sufficiently tightly tied to the core

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Vishal Kashyap @ [SaiHertz]
In other words it can be installed just like any other pl language. Are we interested in having plPHP in core? Yes , it must come into the core as PHP developers would now get tempted to write functions inside database this would cut out adoption of Databases which do not have PHP type

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed just like any other pl

Re: [GENERAL] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:11:14PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hi Joshua, We at Command Prompt are in the process of completing a new rev of plPHP. The new rev will not require the PHP source. It will only require that PHP is installed. In other words it can be installed

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Joshua D. Drake
I'm thinking that a pl/PHP is much more interesting for the long term than, say, pl/tcl (mind you, I am a Tcl partisan from way back, but I see that many people are not so enlightened). Barring any licensing problems I think this is something to pursue. Per the license issue it is licensed

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote: PLs are sufficiently tightly tied to the core that it's probably easier to maintain them as part of our core CVS than otherwise. (Ask Joe Conway about PL/R. As a matter of fact, let's ask him. Thomas Hallgren is probably not that happy about maintaining pl/java out of core,

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not convinced that PLs are more tied to the core than say OpenFTS, and if we can't maintain that kind of thing externally, then this whole extension thing sounds like a failure to me. It's *possible* to do it. Whether it's a net savings of

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Peter Eisentraut wrote: I'm not convinced that PLs are more tied to the core than say OpenFTS, and if we can't maintain that kind of thing externally, then this whole extension thing sounds like a failure to me. As many times as Peter and I butt heads, on this I have to agree

Re: [GENERAL] Debugging deadlocks

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I looked at Paul's first message and thought nah, that won't work because ... because ... hmm ... hmmm ... For what it's worth, this would be very similar to how Oracle handles such locks. [ slightly alarmed ] Do they

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
One key point to note here is Joshua already saying they wish, like plPerl, to continue maintaining the core code outside of the core distribution ... the way I read that is they just want to be 'in core' to piggy back on the distribution, not to make development/maintenance any easier ...

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

2005-04-01 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, since plPerlNG is maintained on PgFoundry, are the changes you are making to core getting migrated back to the main project itself? I don't know, and not being a maintainer of the pgfoundry project, it is *definitely* not my problem. But I