[GENERAL] Get the number of records of a result set

2008-01-30 Thread Eugenio Tacchini
Hello, I'm writing a function in PL/pgSQL and I would like to know if there is a method to get the number of records in a result set, after a select query, without executing the same query using COUNT(*). Thanks. Regards, Eugenio. ---(end of

Re: [GENERAL] Getting the count(*) from two tables and two date ranges in same query

2008-01-30 Thread Håkan Jacobsson
Adam, I don't get the correct row counts when running this SQL. It seems to produce the correct count when there are no rows found,but not when at least one row is found (I get a much higher count than when running: SELECT count(*) FROM table2 WHERE date BETWEEN.AND table1.id = n ,which is

Re: [GENERAL] Get the number of records of a result set

2008-01-30 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/plpgsql-statements.html#PLPGSQL-STATEMENTS-DIAGNOSTICS regards Pavel Stehule On 30/01/2008, Eugenio Tacchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm writing a function in PL/pgSQL and I would like to know if there is a method to get the

Re: [GENERAL] Get the number of records of a result set

2008-01-30 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 09:14 +0100, Eugenio Tacchini wrote: Hello, I'm writing a function in PL/pgSQL and I would like to know if there is a method to get the number of records in a result set, after a select query, without executing the same query using COUNT(*). not sure what exactly you

Re: [GENERAL] Getting the count(*) from two tables and two date ranges in same query

2008-01-30 Thread Håkan Jacobsson
Adam, I just realised that issuing the SQL on one table produces the correct count. SELECT sum(case when table2.date between '2007-07-13' and '2007-07-13' then 1 else 0 end) as sumx FROM table2 WHERE id = n; This is working alright. So the problem should lie in the last part: from table2,

Re: [GENERAL] Get the number of records of a result set

2008-01-30 Thread Eugenio Tacchini
At 16.35 30/01/2008 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: not sure what exactly you mean, but perhaps this could help? del_stime := timeofday(); execute del_qry; del_etime := timeofday(); GET DIAGNOSTICS del_rows = ROW_COUNT; This would get you the # of rows inserted into the destination

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Page
On Jan 30, 2008 11:35 AM, Raymond O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/01/2008 11:27, Gregory Stark wrote: In fact I think most of the features you'll look for examples of will be from the last 1-2 years. When 8.3 comes out people will be looking for whole books on XML

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 30/01/2008 11:27, Gregory Stark wrote: In fact I think most of the features you'll look for examples of will be from the last 1-2 years. When 8.3 comes out people will be looking for whole books on XML functionality, tsearch implementations, etc, and there will be nothing aside from the

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Gregory Stark
Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rant One of the worst aspect of PG is the documentation, or the lack of it in terms of traditional house. The Manual is fine and all, but in most cases, what I find that it lacks is actually examples. Either examples to show what it a particular

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Jason Topaz
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:54 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: rant One of the worst aspect of PG is the documentation, or the lack of it in terms of traditional house. The Manual is fine and all, but in most cases, what I find that it lacks is actually examples. Either examples to show what it a

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:27:20 + Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rant One of the worst aspect of PG is the documentation, or the lack of it in terms of traditional house. The Manual is fine and all, but in most cases, what I find that it

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 30/01/2008 12:12, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: Many things are already there in the VI Reference section but some are not, especially in the V Server programming part. +1 The Server Programming section is where we really need lots of examples. Ray.

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Wilson
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I find that the best way to get what you need, is to read the fine manual from postgresql. Yes, its massive, unwieldy and in a lot of ways counter-intuitive (to a newbie) but if you have the terminology down you aren't going to

Re: [GENERAL] [OT] Slony + Alter table using pgadmin

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jan 29, 2008, at 23:42 , Ow Mun Heng wrote: This is OT for this list and I don't have access to I-net (only email) and I'm not subscribed to the Slony list. To see your options for the slony1-general mailing list by email, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word `help'

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Page
On Jan 30, 2008 12:45 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else generated a Windows Help version of the manual? We distribute it with PostgreSQL - it's just not integrated with the pgAdmin help any more. You can even tell pgAdmin to use that if you don''t wish to use the online

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread vincent
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:27:20 + Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW examples are a sort of specification too. I wouldn't underestimate their more formal value. So I think they should be part of *the* reference documentation with example output as well. They shouldn't be of the

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Raymond O'Donnell: Isn't this the idea of the interactive online docs? People can add stuff they find useful for others. Well, not really, for better or worse. Each release, we take the comments and either fold them into the main documentation or delete

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Wilson
Dave Page wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 1:34 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Page wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 12:45 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else generated a Windows Help version of the manual? Is it only distributed with the Window distribution?

Re: [GENERAL] ECPG problem with 8.3

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Wilson
Michael Meskes wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:57:45AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I'm concerned about this too. We'll at least have to call this out as an incompatibility in 8.3, and it seems like a rather unnecessary step backwards. Given that people seem to use this feature I'm more

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Dave Page
On Jan 30, 2008 1:34 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Page wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 12:45 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else generated a Windows Help version of the manual? We distribute it with PostgreSQL - it's just not integrated with the

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Wilson
Dave Page wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 12:45 PM, Peter Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else generated a Windows Help version of the manual? We distribute it with PostgreSQL - it's just not integrated with the pgAdmin help any more. You can even tell pgAdmin to use that if you

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Peter Wilson: Has anyone else generated a Windows Help version of the manual? It can be built from the source code using the make htmlhelp target in doc/src/sgml/. I don't know how to get from there to the final format, though. I understand it is

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Ivan Sergio Borgonovo: How/where is it possible to submit doc patches? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The process is mostly the same as for normal code. The Developer section of the web site gives you more information. -- Peter Eisentraut

[GENERAL] Clustering/Partitioning tables from existing tables?

2008-01-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Last night I was working realy hard (10 hours) while reinstalling some servers in Freiburg and now I have a big problem/question to tables... My customer had used PostgreSQL 7.4 and we have dumped all tables into separated dumps because the tables are too big!!! Formerly, it was the

Re: [GENERAL] Can we have 2 databases on same server

2008-01-30 Thread Chander Ganesan
Hello Suresh, Suresh Gupta VG wrote: Hi Team, I have Solaris 9 machine with Pgsql 7.4 and want to upgrade to 8.2.5. I don't want to disturb the first version now. I want to install second one separately and need to test with my application. If it works fine, I will activate only the

Re: [GENERAL] PGCon vs Postgresql Conference

2008-01-30 Thread Erik Jones
On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:18 AM, Sim Zacks wrote: Anyway my suggestion to Sim is to read about each conference on the respective conference websites: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/why/ http://www.pgcon.org/2008/ I read those, I was just confused as to why there were 2 conferences on the

Re: [GENERAL] Getting the count(*) from two tables and two date ranges in same query

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Lane
=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_Jacobsson?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just realised that issuing the SQL on one table produces the correct count. SELECT sum(case when table2.date between '2007-07-13' and '2007-07-13' then 1 else 0 end) as sumx FROM table2 WHERE id = n; This is working alright.

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Lane
vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the manual yes, but I think there's definately a need for a howto document, something that demonstrates how to handle typical database functionality in PgSQL. Many of the people I've convinced to start using PostgeSQL spend the first week or so asking me

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hart
Tom Lane wrote: vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the manual yes, but I think there's definately a need for a howto document, something that demonstrates how to handle typical database functionality in PgSQL. Many of the people I've convinced to start using PostgeSQL spend the first week

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: regards, tom lane I agree that it would be useful as an introduction, but I have 4 years of mySQL experience (I know, I'm sorry) and I've been working

[GENERAL] XML-support

2008-01-30 Thread Sigurd Nes
Hi, I noticed the upcoming support for xml in 8.3: Does anybody know if this allows updates, inserts,removes and renames of nodes to a XML-document (as for Xindice)? Regards Sigurd Nes ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread vincent
Tom Lane wrote: vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely even a book that's a little out-of-date can serve fine for that kind of introduction? I guess the point is that using older books is the only option, there simple are no uptodate books available. People who want to use a book (and

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Glyn Astill
--- vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:27:20 + Gregory Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW examples are a sort of specification too. I wouldn't underestimate their more formal value. So I think they should be part of *the* reference documentation with example

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hart
Glyn Astill wrote: More documentation would be nice, but surely it's more down to getting the type of user base that write your average how to books? The O'Reilly books seem to cover postgres quite nicely, however I've only had a flick through in shops. One thing's for sure, 2 months ago I

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Alvaro Herrera
vincent wrote: True, but that only works for experienced 'nerds' who get a kick out of connecting dots. Joe Average want's a bit more assistance, a bit more guidance. Have you read the Tutorial section of the docs? What do you feel it is missing? Can you contribute to it? -- Alvaro

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:55:12 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely think that the lists are one of the shining stars for postgresql support. I've learned some good reference stuff from online docs/google but the really tricky

[GENERAL] aggregate hash function

2008-01-30 Thread Matthew Dennis
I'm in need of an aggregate hash function. Something like select md5_agg(someTextColumn) from (select someTextColumn from someTable order by someOrderingColumn). I know that there is an existing MD5 function, but it is not an aggregate. I have thought about writing a concat aggregate function

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread vincent
vincent wrote: True, but that only works for experienced 'nerds' who get a kick out of connecting dots. Joe Average want's a bit more assistance, a bit more guidance. Have you read the Tutorial section of the docs? What do you feel it is missing? Can you contribute to it? Yes I have.

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hart
Joshua D. Drake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:55:12 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely think that the lists are one of the shining stars for postgresql support. I've learned some good reference stuff from online docs/google

[GENERAL] expression index on date_trunc

2008-01-30 Thread a . redhead
Hi, is is possible to create an expression index based on the date_trunc function? Working with PostgreSQL 8.2, I'm trying to create an index using: CREATE INDEX request_day_idx ON moksha_sm_request (date_trunc('day', request_received)); I get the error message: ERROR: functions in index

[GENERAL] Mailing list archives/docs project

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hart
Hello everybody. What started as a question about Practical PostgreSQL has ballooned into a project to create another documentation resource, compiled entirely from mailing list archives. While discussing documentation in the general list I realized that the resource I had learned the most

[GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Willem Buitendyk
I'm trying to replicate the use of Oracle's 'lag' and 'over partition by' analytical functions in my query. I have a table (all_client_times) such as: client_id, datetime 122, 2007-05-01 12:00:00 122, 2007-05-01 12:01:00 455, 2007-05-01 12:02:00 455, 2007-05-01 12:03:00 455, 2007-05-01

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Dann Corbit
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pgsql-general- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Willem Buitendyk Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:15 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions I'm trying to replicate the use of Oracle's

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Adam Rich
and I would like to create a new view that takes the first table and calculates the time difference in minutes between each row so that the result is something like: client_id,datetime, previousTime, difftime 122,2007-05-01 12:01:00, 2007-05-01 12:00:00, 1 455,2007-05-01 12:03:00,

Re: [GENERAL] Mailing list archives/docs project

2008-01-30 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:10:07 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody. What started as a question about Practical PostgreSQL has ballooned into a project to create another [snip] I generally tend to write stuff that was not clear on my website.

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Lewis Cunningham
How about something like this: SELECT client_id , datetime , lagged as previoustime , datetime - lagged difftime FROM ( SELECT client_id ,datetime ,(SELECT MAX(datetime) FROM all_client_times def WHERE def.client_id = abc.client_id AND

Re: [GENERAL] Mailing list archives/docs project

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Hart
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:10:07 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody. What started as a question about Practical PostgreSQL has ballooned into a project to create another [snip] I generally tend to write stuff that was not clear on my

Re: [GENERAL] XML-support

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Sigurd Nes wrote: I noticed the upcoming support for xml in 8.3: Does anybody know if this allows updates, inserts,removes and renames of nodes to a XML-document (as for Xindice)? No, it doesn't support that directly. I guess you could achieve it by using XSLT. -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Josh, Myself and a small team of PostgreSQL contributors have started a new community project for PostgreSQL Certification. It is just launching but we wanted to get it out there so that people can join in on the discussion now :). Who else is in this? Have you talked to the Venezualan

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:17:43 -0800 Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Current broadcast members are: Myself Magnus Robert Chander (need to get him on the website) Bruce has a pending invitation (which I didn't send yet) I have not spoken with

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Reece Hart
create table data ( client_id integer, datetime timestamp not null ); create index data_client_id on data(client_id); copy data from STDIN DELIMITER ','; 122,2007-05-01 12:00:00 122,2007-05-01 12:01:00 455,2007-05-01 12:02:00 455,2007-05-01 12:03:00 455,2007-05-01 12:08:00

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey guys, Myself and a small team of PostgreSQL contributors have started a new community project for PostgreSQL Certification. It is just launching but we wanted to get it out there so that people can join in on the discussion now :). For more

Re: [GENERAL] expression index on date_trunc

2008-01-30 Thread Daniel Verite
A Redhead wrote: CREATE INDEX request_day_idx ON moksha_sm_request (date_trunc('day', request_received)); I get the error message: ERROR: functions in index expression must be marked IMMUTABLE [...] I'd be grateful if someone could point out what part of the statement is not

Re: [GENERAL] expression index on date_trunc

2008-01-30 Thread Gregory Stark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CREATE INDEX request_day_idx ON moksha_sm_request (date_trunc('day', request_received)); ... I'd be grateful if someone could point out what part of the statement is not IMMUTABLE or how I could mark my create index statement as being immutable.

Re: [GENERAL] aggregate hash function

2008-01-30 Thread Vyacheslav Kalinin
Most implementations of md5 internally consist of 3 functions: md5_init - which initializes internal context, md5_update - which accepts portions of data and processes them and md5_final - which finalizes the hash and releases the context. These roughly suit aggregate's internal functions (SFUNC

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Josh, I have not spoken with SRA or the Venezualan folks but am more than happy to have them involved. OK, I'll get you some contact info. --Josh ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

[GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Swaminathan Saikumar
Hi all, I'm new to PostGreSql. http://searchyourwebhost.com/web-hosting/articles/insight-database-hosting-using-sql Check out the link. I am starting out on a new personal project had zeroed in on PostGreSql with Mono-ASP.NET as ideal for my needs, mainly owing to a PostGreSql whitepaper. Now,

Re: [GENERAL] aggregate hash function

2008-01-30 Thread Matthew Dennis
On Jan 30, 2008 4:40 PM, Vyacheslav Kalinin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most implementations of md5 internally consist of 3 functions: md5_init - which initializes internal context, md5_update - which accepts portions of data and processes them and md5_final - which finalizes the hash and

Re: [GENERAL] enabling autovacuum

2008-01-30 Thread Jeremy Harris
Chander Ganesan wrote: Jeremy Harris wrote: Version: PostgreSQL 8.2.4 on i686-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20070418 (Red Hat 4.1.2-10) We have one problematic table, which has a steady stream of entries and a weekly mass-delete of ancient history. The bloat query from

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Can you show us the goals of the PostgreSQL Certification ? I always voted for the united PostgreSQL Certification program (amin, developer) we could promote with the help of commercial companies. In my opinion, common certificate, valid in all countries will be much more useful than buttons.

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Willem Buitendyk
I tried this function but it keeps returning an error such as: ERROR: invalid input syntax for integer: 2007-05-05 00:34:08 SQL state: 22P02 Context: PL/pgSQL function lagfunc line 10 at assignment I checked and there are no datetime values in the client_id field anywhere in my table

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Willem Buitendyk
Thanks Reece, I got this to work for me. The only problem was with the ORDER BY clause which did not seem to work properly. I took it out and instead used a sorted view for the data table. Cheers, Willem Reece Hart wrote: create table data ( client_id integer, datetime timestamp

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Willem Buitendyk
Found the error: client_id := thisrow.datetime; should be client_id := thisrow.client_id; All works well now, Thanks very much, Willem Willem Buitendyk wrote: I tried this function but it keeps returning an error such as: ERROR: invalid input syntax for integer: 2007-05-05 00:34:08 SQL

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:11:05 -0800 Swaminathan Saikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm new to PostGreSql. http://searchyourwebhost.com/web-hosting/articles/insight-database-hosting-using-sql The cons of PostgreSql Hosting *

Re: [GENERAL] Oracle Analytical Functions

2008-01-30 Thread Adam Rich
I tried this function but it keeps returning an error such as: ERROR: invalid input syntax for integer: 2007-05-05 00:34:08 SQL state: 22P02 Context: PL/pgSQL function lagfunc line 10 at assignment Whoops, this line: client_id := thisrow.datetime; Should be: client_id :=

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
--- On Wed, 1/30/08, Swaminathan Saikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cons of PostgreSql Hosting * Performance considerations: Inserts and Updates into the PostgreSql database is much slower compared to MySql. PostgreSql hosting thus might slow down the display of the web page online. ...

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Peter Wilson
Swaminathan Saikumar wrote: Hi all, I'm new to PostGreSql. http://searchyourwebhost.com/web-hosting/articles/insight-database-hosting-using-sql What a wonderful article - it's almost worth keeping a copy. It's so bad it's difficult to know where to start. I think my favourite has to be : +

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Jan 30, 2008 5:11 PM, Swaminathan Saikumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm new to PostGreSql. http://searchyourwebhost.com/web-hosting/articles/insight-database-hosting-using-sql I just skimmed through that page and honestly, it's wrong on LOTS of counts, again and again. For

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Dan Langille
Josh Berkus wrote: Josh, Myself and a small team of PostgreSQL contributors have started a new community project for PostgreSQL Certification. It is just launching but we wanted to get it out there so that people can join in on the discussion now :). Who else is in this? Have you talked to

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread brian
Josh Berkus wrote: Josh, Myself and a small team of PostgreSQL contributors have started a new community project for PostgreSQL Certification. It is just launching but we wanted to get it out there so that people can join in on the discussion now :). Who else is in this? Have you talked to

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Erik Jones
On Jan 30, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Richard Broersma Jr wrote: If you don't get too much feed back on this subject, just remember that topics like this come up frequently to the point of list member exhaustion. You can find such discussions if you search the list archive. Too true. There's

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Swaminathan Saikumar
Thanks everyone. After all the good things I heard about Postgres, I was surprised to see this article; and the point on storage concerned me. I am glad to see that the article was wrong, not only on the storage engine count, but also on others. Thanks for the feedback. On 1/30/08, Erik Jones

Re: [GENERAL] Is PostGreSql's Data storage mechanism inferior?

2008-01-30 Thread Erik Jones
On Jan 30, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Swaminathan Saikumar wrote: Hi all, I'm new to PostGreSql. http://searchyourwebhost.com/web-hosting/articles/insight-database- hosting-using-sql Check out the link. I am starting out on a new personal project had zeroed in on PostGreSql with Mono-ASP.NET as

Re: [GENERAL] enabling autovacuum

2008-01-30 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
Jeremy Harris wrote: Chander Ganesan wrote: Inserts don't generate dead tuples, and AVD looks at obsolete tuples.. As such, I wouldn't expect AVD to kick off until after you did a mass delete...assuming that delete was sizable enough to trigger a vacuum. Ah, that would explain it -

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 20:47 +0900, Jason Topaz wrote: I don't disagree with your point that it's not robust with examples of exactly how a particular problem can be solved. But I think there are enough, and more importantly, I don't think problem-solving is an important focus for a manual

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL [WAS: postgresql book...]

2008-01-30 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 4 years of mySQL experience (I know, I'm sorry) Why is this something to apologize for? I used to use MySQL for everything and now use PostgreSQL for the majority of my DB needs. I certainly advocate PG now to anyone

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL [WAS: postgresql book...]

2008-01-30 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 20:14 -0600, Josh Trutwin wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 4 years of mySQL experience (I know, I'm sorry) Why is this something to apologize for? I used to use MySQL for everything and now use PostgreSQL for the

Re: [GENERAL] MySQL [WAS: postgresql book...]

2008-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:14:15 -0600 Josh Trutwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:20:58 -0500 Tom Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 4 years of mySQL experience (I know, I'm sorry) Why is this something to apologize for? I

[GENERAL] Performance problems with Postgresql/ZFS/Non-global zones on Solaris?

2008-01-30 Thread jiniusatwork-postgresql
In the hopes that someone has already blazed this trail ... I'm running Postgresql (v8.1.10) on Solaris 10 (Sparc) from within a non-global zone. I originally had the database storage in the non-global zone (e.g. /var/local/pgsql/data on a UFS filesystem) and was getting performance of X

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Hart wrote: I definitely think that the lists are one of the shining stars for postgresql support. I've learned some good reference stuff from online docs/google but the really tricky questions were only answered here, and amazingly enough, quickly and with good humor. Perhaps what we

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-01-30 Thread Gregory Williamson
Bruce Momjian said: Tom Hart wrote: I definitely think that the lists are one of the shining stars for postgresql support. I've learned some good reference stuff from online docs/google but the really tricky questions were only answered here, and amazingly enough, quickly and with

Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL Certification

2008-01-30 Thread Hans-Juergen Schoenig
I suggest to explicitly invite the Russian folks too. Oleg showed strong interest in a global certification thing. we can contribute some material and so on if needed. it is currently in german but it should not be a big problem. many thanks, hans On Jan 30, 2008,