[GENERAL] PG quitting sporadically!!

2008-02-14 Thread Phoenix Kiula
Hi, I have been running PG for quite a while now. Suddenly, the postmaster either hogs up memory or just croaks and doesn't respond. The write process has become horribly slow. Could it be that my data has grown so large that it's becoming an issue? Even connecting to PGSQL as postgres user in

Re: [GENERAL] character conversion problem about UTF-8--SHIFT_JIS_2004

2008-02-14 Thread bh yuan
SHIFT_JIS_2004 is different to SJIS. But when I use SJIS, I occur the same problem, so I try SHIFT_JIS_2004. = set client_encoding='SJIS'; SET = select * from tablexx; ERROR: character 0xc2a0 of encoding UTF8 has no equivalent in SJIS too confused... Thanks 2008/2/13, Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL

[GENERAL] installation problem

2008-02-14 Thread First NameBipllab Roy
I am having problem installing the postgre vre 8.2 in windows vista. during the installation period it displays the error mesage user postgres cannot be created access denied and suddenly the installation fails. please give me suggestion in this regard. -

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Balázs Klein
Hi, Yes I know that SPSS can do this - in fact that is the only way I could solve this so far, but that is a very expensive workaround for anybody not currently owning SPSS. Thanks. SWK -Original Message- From: jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:31 PM

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Balázs Klein
Hi, ye, hundreds of columns - but there is no helping it, that’s the way many questionnaire are and the representation of the responses (when not in a database) is always one person per row. I would need this for exporting, but also to show results online. Although it’s a good idea I am afraid

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Balázs Klein
Yes, once I have the select outputting it to CSV is not a problem. As you say PG handles that nicely. Thx SWK -Original Message- From: Reece Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:39 PM To: Tino Wildenhain Cc: SunWuKung; pgsql-general@postgresql.org

Re: [GENERAL] pg_dump, pg_restore.

2008-02-14 Thread Emil J.
First, i apologize, my english skills is very, very poor. --- i have many tables in many schemas with default value like that: DEFAULT schema.function(...). i need backup all databases and i need restore it. IF YOU WANT UNDERSTAND ME, YOU NEED DO THIS: YOU TRY RESTORE _DB_TEST_.PGB FILE

[GENERAL] Different host aliases in SLONY configuration table

2008-02-14 Thread Timur Luchkin
Hello, I have a question regarding SLONY replication. In short, the question is: Can I have different values on every node in the sl_path table in column pa_conninfo? For example, one node has IP addresses in pa_conninfo, but other has aliases from /etc/hosts? More detailed description: I

Re: [GENERAL] installation problem

2008-02-14 Thread A. Kretschmer
am Thu, dem 14.02.2008, um 7:35:15 + mailte First NameBipllab Roy folgendes: I am having problem installing the postgre vre 8.2 in windows vista. during the installation period it displays the error mesage user postgres cannot be created access denied and suddenly the installation

Re: [GENERAL] using DROP in a transaction

2008-02-14 Thread Willy-Bas Loos
this is really bugging me. am i doing something stupid? On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Willy-Bas Loos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, that explains. so i go on with my test, which still doesn't turn out as i expected (PostgreSQL 8.1.10). why?? ==in TTY1== (start.sql) create table test (id

Re: [GENERAL] PG quitting sporadically!!

2008-02-14 Thread Greg Smith
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Phoenix Kiula wrote: Suddenly, the postmaster either hogs up memory or just croaks and doesn't respond. The write process has become horribly slow. You should consider whether that's because a checkpoint is happening at that point. You didn't mention anything about your

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Balázs Klein wrote: Hi, Yes I know that SPSS can do this - in fact that is the only way I could solve this so far, but that is a very expensive workaround for anybody not currently owning SPSS. Huh, perhaps you could try with PSPP ... (I don't know if it can do it, but I know it is supposed

[GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Michiel Holtkamp
Hello list, Just joined, read the archives, but couldn't find a solution to my problem. My question is: 'How can I best determine when to delete data?'. Hopefully this is the right place to ask, otherwise kindly redirect me to the proper list. The situation is as follows: we use PostgreSQL

Re: [GENERAL] Order of SUBSTR and UPPER in statement

2008-02-14 Thread Michael Fuhr
[Please copy the mailing list on replies so others can contribute to and learn from the discussion.] On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:56:36AM +0100, Hermann Muster wrote: The statement I'm using is the following: SELECT

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread vincent
Hello list, predictable. Sometimes a lot of data is stored over a period of a few days and the disk runs out of free space (this is not theoretical, in one case it happened already). For this situation we decided that we I suppose expanding the amount of storage space is not an option?

Re: [GENERAL] Storing images as BYTEA or large objects

2008-02-14 Thread John DeSoi
On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Koen Vermeer wrote: I'll check to see what the options are for reading in the data in PHP. Thanks for the help! If you use prepared statements, you don't need to do anything special at all for bytea with PHP. No worries about escaping and all that. Using the

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Childs
On 14/02/2008, Michiel Holtkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, Just joined, read the archives, but couldn't find a solution to my problem. My question is: 'How can I best determine when to delete data?'. Hopefully this is the right place to ask, otherwise kindly redirect me to the

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Michiel Holtkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello list, Just joined, read the archives, but couldn't find a solution to my problem. My question is: 'How can I best determine when to delete data?'. Hopefully this is the right place to ask, otherwise kindly redirect me to the

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Hart
Joshua D. Drake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:50:41 -0500 (EST) Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could help out with the initial setup, you could just have somebody internally do the install and let me have an account when it's ready,

Re: [GENERAL] Order of SUBSTR and UPPER in statement

2008-02-14 Thread Hermann Muster
Michael Fuhr schrieb: [Please copy the mailing list on replies so others can contribute to and learn from the discussion.] On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:56:36AM +0100, Hermann Muster wrote: The statement I'm using is the following: SELECT

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Michiel Holtkamp
First off, thank you all for such a quick response. I will reply on several emails at the same time, because the answers overlap. Bill Moran wrote: In response to Michiel Holtkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since you don't give any idea how much data is involved, let me iterate through your choices,

Re: [GENERAL] Different host aliases in SLONY configuration table

2008-02-14 Thread Christopher Browne
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Timur Luchkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question regarding SLONY replication. In short, the question is: Can I have different values on every node in the sl_path table in column pa_conninfo? For example, one node has IP addresses in pa_conninfo, but

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Jones
On Feb 14, 2008, at 2:04 AM, Balázs Klein wrote: Hi, ye, hundreds of columns - but there is no helping it, that’s the way many questionnaire are and the representation of the responses (when not in a database) is always one person per row. I would need this for exporting, but also to

[GENERAL] PostgreSQLDirect versus Npgsql

2008-02-14 Thread Benjamin Arai
Has anybody had a good experience going from Npgsql to Corelab:PostgreSQLDirect? I am considering migrating because it offers support for COPY but I am wondering about other functionality and performance as well. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Benjamin

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Balázs Klein
Hi, the part that I don't know is how to put those NULLs in. It could well be doable I just can't do it myself. How does the query look like that produces from this input: PersonID AttributeID Value 1 1 aaa 1 2 bbb 1 3 ccc 2 1 ddd 2 3

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Jones
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Michiel Holtkamp wrote: Peter Childs [reformatted] wrote: I think you need to know depending on a mix of free disk space and free space map usage. If you do a standard Vacuum Verbose it will tell you how full the fsm is. You need to ensure that you have

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Michiel Holtkamp
Erik Jones wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Michiel Holtkamp wrote: Maybe this is what I'm looking for. Is there any other way to retrieve information on the fsm usage? Have a look at the pg_freespacemap contrib package. Thank you! I will. Regards, Michiel

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Jones
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Balázs Klein wrote: -Original Message- From: Erik Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:15 PM To: Balázs Klein Cc: 'Tino Wildenhain'; 'SunWuKung'; pgsql-general@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab On Feb

[GENERAL] Suncoast Postgres User Group

2008-02-14 Thread Lewis Cunningham
This is the official announcement for the Suncoast PostgreSQL User Group (SPUG). You can read the blog here: http://pugs.postgresql.org/spug The SPUG serves western central Florida, specifically Tampa, St Pete, Lakeland, Brandon, Bradenton, Sarasota, and even Orlando. Hopefully we will have a

Re: [GENERAL] Order of SUBSTR and UPPER in statement

2008-02-14 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 04:48:33PM +0100, Hermann Muster wrote: Michael Fuhr schrieb: COALESCE(UPPER(SUBSTR(X.Firma,1,7)) = I haven't examined the entire query but the above line appears to be the problem. Did you mean to write the following?

Re: [GENERAL] Deferred constraints and locks...

2008-02-14 Thread Nathan Wilhelmi
Jan Wieck wrote: On 2/12/2008 3:04 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Nathan Wilhelmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello - Trying to track down a lock contention problem, I have a process that does a series of select / insert operations. At some point the process grabs a series of RowExclusiveLock(s) and

Re: [GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Jones
On Feb 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Greg Fausak wrote: Howdy, I find that user accounts are very good for helping me protect application access to the database. That is, instead of giving a user 1 account, I may give hem 10, and each of those accounts are restricted in the database in different

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Shane Ambler
Is postgresql the only thing using the disk space/partition? Have you considered running a cron job to parse df output to trigger a delete when disk usage gets to a set threshold? and thus also account for any unexpected non-postgresql disk usage. I would also think you would want to consider

[GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Greg Fausak
Howdy, I find that user accounts are very good for helping me protect application access to the database. That is, instead of giving a user 1 account, I may give hem 10, and each of those accounts are restricted in the database in different ways. Anyway, I'm wondering what the maximum number of

Re: [GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Christopher Browne
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Greg Fausak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, I find that user accounts are very good for helping me protect application access to the database. That is, instead of giving a user 1 account, I may give hem 10, and each of those accounts are restricted in the

Re: [GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Fausak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I create a database with 1 million login roles and expect performance to be good? 10 million? Probably not, as (to my knowledge) no one has ever done any performance testing in that domain. I doubt anyone's worked with more than a few thousand roles.

Re: [GENERAL] performance issues on windows with 8.3.0?

2008-02-14 Thread Dan Armbrust
So, my ill Postgres 8.3 database is filling up log files in the pg_log directory with the following: 2008-02-13 18:29:31 CST LOG: loaded library $libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll 2008-02-13 18:29:31 CST LOG: loaded library $libdir/plugins/plugin_debugger.dll 2008-02-13 18:29:31 CST LOG:

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL Conference East: Talks announced

2008-02-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, The speakers committee has voted on the talks and all speakers have been notified. We have an excellent range of topics that will be discussed by a number of well known PostgreSQL contributors. We also have talks from some newcomers as well.

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Michiel Holtkamp
On Feb 14, 2008, at 19:24 , Shane Ambler wrote: Is postgresql the only thing using the disk space/partition? There are some other things on the partition, but they don't change in size. Have you considered running a cron job to parse df output to trigger a delete when disk usage gets

Re: [GENERAL] performance issues on windows with 8.3.0?

2008-02-14 Thread Magnus Hagander
Dan Armbrust wrote: Are there any known regression issues WRT performance on the 8.3.0.1 binary build for windows? And I mean serious -multiple orders of magnitude- performance issues running simple queries on a small database... A little more background. I built 8.3.0 on Cent OS 5 today.

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Michiel Holtkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Feb 14, 2008, at 19:24 , Shane Ambler wrote: Is postgresql the only thing using the disk space/partition? There are some other things on the partition, but they don't change in size. Have you considered running a cron job to

[GENERAL] initdb problem with Windows Installer for PostgreSQL 8.2.4

2008-02-14 Thread brrCv
Hi, I have searched this group and have found where others have reported issues with initdb. A couple of our Windows XP SP2 customers are having problems upgrading to our latest release which includes version 8.2.4 of PostgreSQL. They are logged on as a local Windows admin. We use the MSI with

Re: [GENERAL] postgresql book - practical or something newer?

2008-02-14 Thread Greg Smith
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Tom Hart wrote: Are we still waiting on this, or did the discussion move off list? Waiting--all involved are distracted doing the organization work for the East conference this week. -- * Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL/PHP Application Server

2008-02-14 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 06:01 +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: I haven't looked into it much but SE-PostgreSQL may be an option for Bill Moran also pointed out Postgresql Veil PHP Horde: Veil Project http://veil.projects.postgresql.org/ Horde Framework: http://www.horde.org/ Of course, there

Re: [GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Greg Fausak
inline.. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Fausak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I create a database with 1 million login roles and expect performance to be good? 10 million? Probably not, as (to my knowledge) no one has ever done any performance

[GENERAL] JDBC and Postgresql 8.0 - cpu usage question

2008-02-14 Thread Brent Friedman
We are running a Java app with Tomcat 5.0.x and Postgres 8.0.x on a linux machine: 2.6.16 kernel, dual processor, 16gb ram, 2 scsi drives. The machine runs a few other ongoing applications that handle replication, but their impact on performance should be constant over time. The application

Re: [GENERAL] Maximum realistic number of database user accounts?

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Fausak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, your statement that granting permissions on the same object, does that apply to roles themselves? The bulk of my permissions boil down to granting a role to a role. Well, there are not *known* bottlenecks in that, but again it's not something that's

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Klein Balazs
I can't imagine how I could store data directly that way (beside the usual thing that whenever I can I aim to store scalar value in a column). To do what you suggest I could have this: 1 (aaa,bbb,ccc) 2 (ddd,NULL,eee) but for this I would need to store a NULL for a person for all the questions

Re: [GENERAL] How to cope with low disk space

2008-02-14 Thread Daniel Verite
Michiel Holtkamp wrote: Running low on disk space can also happen when something goes wrong with the recording trigger (this can be a hardware fault). In both cases, we don't want to store even more data, but we will want to make a selection based on age (newer data is more

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Jones
On Feb 14, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Klein Balazs wrote: My point was to get rid of the the EAV setup. Something like: CREATE TABLE questions ( question_id serial primary key, question text not null ); CREATE TABLE people ( person_id serial primary key, ); CREATE TABLE answers ( person_id

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQLDirect versus Npgsql

2008-02-14 Thread Tony Caduto
Benjamin Arai wrote: Has anybody had a good experience going from Npgsql to Corelab:PostgreSQLDirect? I am considering migrating because it offers support for COPY but I am wondering about other functionality and performance as well. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Benjamin

[GENERAL] Strict-typing benefits/costs

2008-02-14 Thread Ken Johanson
I continue to hope that 8.4 later (or 8.3 patched) will provide behavior / compatibility controls.. I personally have requested others in past, but one outstanding one now, seems to be an ability to turn back-on implicit type conversion. I'm struggling to see Mysql, Mssql, Oracle, and others

Re: [GENERAL] SELECT CAST(123 AS char) - 1

2008-02-14 Thread Stephan Szabo
[Way behind on reading stuff - so I hope this wasn't covered later] On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Tom Lane wrote: Ken Johanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For sake of interoperability (and using an API that requires String-type hashtable keys), I'm trying to find a single CAST (int - var/char)

Re: [GENERAL] Strict-typing benefits/costs

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Ken Johanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For case 1, regarding type safety: we know use of LIKE (and SUBSTR) requires *implicit or explicit* conversion to a text type. Why require that explicitly? Because it's way too easy to burn yourself with implicit conversions. Cases comparable to the one

Re: [GENERAL] Strict-typing benefits/costs

2008-02-14 Thread Jeff Davis
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 15:55 -0700, Ken Johanson wrote: Granted, some of the other databases have bugs in their CAST implementations (see http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=34562 http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=34564) bugs which makes writing PG 8.3 portable code arduous or impossible

Re: [GENERAL] PG quitting sporadically!!

2008-02-14 Thread Phoenix Kiula
Thanks. Comments below. (PS: I am still unable to connect to postgresql even in SSH! I see this message: psql: could not connect to server: Connection timed out Is the server running on host localhost and accepting TCP/IP connections on port 5432? Yes of course the

Re: [GENERAL] Perceived weaknesses of postgres

2008-02-14 Thread Stephen Cook
Magnus Hagander wrote: I would guess they're referring to the ability to pin a table into memory, so that it always stays in the cache regardless of what else the database is doing. There is a narrow use-case where this can be very useful, but it can also be a very dangerous tool (hint: if you

Re: [GENERAL] Perceived weaknesses of postgres

2008-02-14 Thread paul rivers
Stephen Cook wrote: Magnus Hagander wrote: I would guess they're referring to the ability to pin a table into memory, so that it always stays in the cache regardless of what else the database is doing. There is a narrow use-case where this can be very useful, but it can also be a very

Re: [GENERAL] character conversion problem about UTF-8--SHIFT_JIS_2004

2008-02-14 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
I don't see any strange thing. There has been no mapping from UTF-8 0xc2a0 to SJIS in PostgreSQL since the day one. That means, you should get the error on 7.4.3, as well as on 8.3. Are you sure that you don't have the error on 7.4.3? -- Tatsuo Ishii SRA OSS, Inc. Japan SHIFT_JIS_2004 is

Re: [GENERAL] PG quitting sporadically!!

2008-02-14 Thread Douglas McNaught
Be aware that when 8.2.3 was released, 8.2 had only been out for two months. There's another 11 months worth of accumulated bug fixes in 8.2.6, including some that can cause the server to slow or crash. It's not a difficult upgrade (no changes to the database) and you should

Re: [GENERAL] dynamic crosstab

2008-02-14 Thread Joe Conway
Erik Jones wrote: See how postgres handles filling the NULLs for you? What you'd really want to do with this would be to define some functions for setting and getting a person's answers to a given question or set of questions so that you could implement some kind of data integrity with

[GENERAL] the feasibility of sending email from stored procedure in Postgres

2008-02-14 Thread hewei
Can send email from stored procedure in Postgres?

Re: [GENERAL] the feasibility of sending email from stored procedure in Postgres

2008-02-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:59:19 +0800 hewei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can send email from stored procedure in Postgres? Sure, see plperl. Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Re: [GENERAL] using DROP in a transaction

2008-02-14 Thread Chris
==in TTY1== --11. expect result at last, value 2 only. (concurrent transaction 2 (in TTY3) completes after this, and will delete values 2 and 4 (added after select was issued) upon commit) --11. true result: ERROR: relation large nr deleted while still in use The

Re: [GENERAL] the feasibility of sending email from stored procedure in Postgres

2008-02-14 Thread Chris
Joshua D. Drake wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:59:19 +0800 hewei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can send email from stored procedure in Postgres? Sure, see plperl. There was also this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgmail/ but no idea whether it's being maintained. -- Postgresql php

Re: [GENERAL] Strict-typing benefits/costs

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lane
Jeff Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying we make special cases for all of the obvious functions, and they should behave differently from user-defined functions? It's possible to special-case any particular function you really feel you need this behavior for. We did special-case ||

[GENERAL] the feasibility of sending email from stored procedure in Postgres

2008-02-14 Thread william
Hello pgsql-general, Can send email from stored procedure in Postgres ? Best regards, william [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-02-15 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings

Re: [GENERAL] the feasibility of sending email from stored procedure in Postgres

2008-02-14 Thread A. Kretschmer
am Fri, dem 15.02.2008, um 11:39:53 +0800 mailte william folgendes: Hello pgsql-general, Can send email from stored procedure in Postgres ? Of course, there are several solutions. For instance, use an untrusted language like pl/perlU or pl/sh. Other solution: pgmail from