xec them.
> If we are OK with restricting the scope of the "pg" program to
> client-side functionality, then there's no problem.
Perhaps we can put the server-side functionality on pg_ctl.
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>
> That sort of looks like it could be data loss, can someone explain what
> happened?
It means someone extended the table, but didn't get around to actually
putting tuples on it and committing. Four transactions were doing this
when the system crashed. No co
ch were a step towards that goal. (The point here is that a hot
standby needs to be able to execute readonly transactions.)
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> Perhaps something like changing "postmaster" to "postgresqld",
It is already called "postgres" on newer versions.
> "pg_ctl" to "safe_postgresqld",
Now that's plain weird.
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8.0 I'm not sure.
Was this issue solved?
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> /*
> *My goal is to calculate and insert automatically the value of "tot"
> when I insert a row into table b.*
> */
Use a trigger. It's a lot simpler.
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to a column after creation created issues, versus using the
> serial type which did not.
He is wrong in that you *can* attach the same information that SERIAL
does if you use ALTER SEQUENCE .. OWNED BY after the fact. If you
don't, then he's right. pg_dump d
's something like
> execute select res fron functionB() into _res;
> since the "complicated" part is inside each functionB I shouldn't
> expect any great loss.
>
> Is it?
Correct -- the part that's being discarded each time here is the SELECT
that
/pgSQL does no
caching at all for that query, and asks the planner for a new plan each
time.
Also, new in 8.3 is a facility for "plan invalidation", which means that
every time the server executes something that makes that plan stale, the
cache is dropped and the plan is rebuilt next time
s how much shared memory the server will
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somebody already holds the lock, so
your LOCK TABLE is just waiting for the holder to release it ...
Have a look around the pg_locks view.
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> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Also, it is MVCC-safe only from 8.3 upwards; on older versions
>> it (incorrectly) deletes dead tuples that are still visible to old
>> transactions.
>
> More interesting. I may have a broken mental-model. I *thought
all methods and functions). Have I to Lock the table, perform some
> operation on this table, and unlock the table all in the same function
> scope?
What do you mean it doesn't work? How exactly it fails?
If anything, I'd suggest to send the LOCK TABLE in a separate PQexec()
c
ey preprocess a different
repository in order to create an obfuscated GPL source tree.
(I have a memory of comments in the source that looked like it referred
to some internal knowledge base or bug tracking system. But frankly it
is a dim memory and could very well be related to the PHP source o
Clodoaldo escribió:
> 2008/3/14, Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > A quick look into pg_locks should tell you if it's blocking.
>
> pg_prepared_xacts is empty and pg_locks has 288 rows:
>
> # select locktype, mode, count(*) as total
> from pg_locks gro
Clodoaldo escribió:
> Postgresql was restarted twice, but yes, it is as if the crash left
> some kind of permanent lock somewhere.
A prepared transaction perhaps? SELECT * FROM pg_prepared_xacts;
A quick look into pg_locks should tell you if it's blocking.
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sactions.
Of course, the main problem with CLUSTER is that it needs about 2x the
disk space of table + indexes.
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> 2008/3/13, Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Clodoaldo escribió:
> >
> >
> > > Now what is happening is that reindex does not finish even with a
> > > small 6,500 rows table and after a reboot. In top there is no CPU or
Clodoaldo escribió:
> Now what is happening is that reindex does not finish even with a
> small 6,500 rows table and after a reboot. In top there is no CPU or
> memory usage by postmaster and vmstat shows no disk activity.
Hmm, are you vacuuming the system catalogs appropriately?
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Hi,
pgFoundry seems down.
Any chance you could take a look at it?
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al
_need_ or it's there just because the other aspects of the system are so
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sam escribió:
> On Mar 11, 5:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alvaro Herrera) wrote:
> > sam escribió:
> >
> > > Iam not able to understand if this i
sam escribió:
> Iam not able to understand if this is a version problem or the way iam
> using savepoints is wrong.Please advice.
It is. You cannot use savepoints in PL/pgSQL functions (or any function
for that matter). You can use EXCEPTION clauses instead.
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e system shuts itself down (but autovac gets a chance
to fix the problem for you before that happens, even if it's turned
off).
Perhaps it's a bug fixed between 8.2.0 and 8.2.6 (which is why you
should upgrade), but perhaps it hasn't been discovered yet. So pleas
an do this or not.).
I don't think this is very interesting because you can do
pg_dump -t foo | psql
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This would be a bug. Please post the unmodified output of
select ctid, xmin, xmax, cmin, cmax, id_absensi, id_user, tanggal
from absensi
The ctid column must differ because it is the physical address of the
tuple.
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indows-1252
Most likely, your source data is not Win1252 but some other different
encoding, so the pg_dump/pg_restore into a Win1252 database mangled it.
Perhaps you oughta initdb the new database with the same encoding that
the original database had, or declare the client_encoding on the
pg_restore
attnum >0 and
> attrelid= ( from above query)
Don't do that. It's far better to create a shell script, or PL/pgSQL
function, whatever suits you, to get the table/column names from the
catalog and then produce the ALTER TABLE commands you need.
Playing directly with the catalogs
't solve your problem; I'm just mentioning it in case
you're looking for reasons to migrate to a newer version.
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the end of the restore as errors.
>
> Are you saying they are really just warnings?
They only mean that the debugger functions could not be loaded. If
you're not using the debugger, they are irrelevant -- in a way, they are
"just warnings".
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find any
> information about "=".
It's exactly the same. := is the documented way, but = is also
accepted and behaves identically.
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tlocation or tell me what I'm doing wrong please.
initlocation hasn't existed since a few years. The current way to do
what you want is to use CREATE TABLESPACE:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/interactive/sql-createtablespace.html
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A B escribió:
> Hi. newbie question, but what will happen if I do
>
> begin work;
> select ...
> insert ...
> and so on...
> commit
>
> and somewhere a query fails. will I get an automatic rollback?
Of course.
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> It just seemed like this would be something so common that there'd
> be something in existence already. I guess I was wrong.
Yeah, I have wished for the same thing myself.
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-- duplicating the original index
DROP INDEX index;
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Did you try setting client_encoding beforehand? I think a simple
PGOPTIONS="client_encoding=latin9" pg_restore ...
should suffice.
Now, if you have mixed UTF8 and Latin1/Latin9 data, you are hosed
(meaning you'll have to wade through the stuff an
ALYZE on the first place? If it's just to see
how many dead space there is, I suggest you peek into
pg_stat_user_tables instead, which is less invasive. Autovacuum itself
should run ANALYZEs as needed (and you can, of course, tune it if you
feel it's not frequent enough in the default confi
s its task. For this to happen you need to be doing
ALTER TABLE or similar however; normal UPDATE/INSERT/DELETE should not
cause autovacuum to cancel itself.
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_locks, pg_stat_activity, the deadlock
message?
(Hmm, it would be helpful if the deadlock checker were to save the
pg_locks contents and perhaps pg_stat_activity in a file, whenever a
deadlock is detected.)
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using byteaout/textin.
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things in the same package, and we don't have any interest in porting
most of the stuff only to get something that we can get more easily by
hooking into Windows native calls.
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.4?
How about returning generic rows? Is that possible? It would be really
neat if you didn't have to specify the return type in the query that
invoked the crosstab.
I keep wondering if there's a way to "pivot" (transpose) a result set
defined by the standard.
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It seems the greylisting setup stopped quarantining emails? I'm getting
a lot more spam in pgsql-hackers and the other lists I moderate, and
nothing in the headers suggest that they were greylisted at all.
Did something happen?
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RY blocks. There are many fine details here,
perhaps too many if you're not battered enough in C.
I think I would suggest trying to do it purely with SQL, temp tables,
etc. If you can afford a table lock, it could be a lot easier and
faster than setting a savepoint per tuple.
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ndling IIRC in 7.3 (or was it 7.2?) was a big change for
pg_dump, and I don't think we would have liked to backpatch the pg_dump
changes. Also, AFAIK the sequences stuff with OWNED BY also needed the
newer pg_dump, which is more recent (8.2?). I don't think it's as rare
as y
s one clue; this is the other:
> LOG: test message did not get through on socket for statistics collector
> LOG: disabling statistics collector for lack of working socket
This is a bad sign. For one thing, it means autovacuum, if enabled, is
not really working at all (which can, in t
it,
but I know it is supposed to be a replacement to SPSS).
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Ken Johanson wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> If you are arguing that the spec's definition of the CHARACTER type is
>> not really very useful, I think you are going to find a lot of
>> supporters. You can send your complaints to the SQL committee; but
>> then, i
the SQL committee; but
then, it is unlikely that this is going to change anytime soon because
of the fear of breaking backwards compatibility.
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> The large-objects-are-actually-files thing applies to my situation, so
> unless there is some 'large objects are / will be deprecated' argument,
> I guess I stick with large objects.
Certainly there is no such argument.
th the client and server.
To get the bytes back unescaped, I think you could use a binary cursor.
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ourself -- see
src/backend/utils/mb/Unicode. I think you would have to edit the
sjis-0213-2004-std.txt file to add those characters, then run
UCS_to_SHIFT_JIS_2004.pl to generate the updated .map file, then
regenerate the shared lib at
src/backend/utils/mb/conversion_procs/utf8_and_shift_
g your distribution packages,
which would likely put it in /usr/lib or another well-known place where
you won't need any of these additional fixups.
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Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:15:23 -0300
> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
> >
> > > Is it just vaporware... maybe... but still there are pros and
> > > cons of having a bland sche
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:
> Is it just vaporware... maybe... but still there are pros and cons of
> having a bland schedule for EOL and new releases.
We do have a schedule:
http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/PostgreSQL_8.4_Development_Plan
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I don't find this very surprising ... I would suggest using "reindex
> > index" for each index instead. I'm not sure if REINDEX TABLE is
> > supposed to be deadlock-free.
>
&g
ble to read the vaccuming or analyzing state of a given
> table manually? Are there any indicatores in statistic tables, wich
> the autovacuum demaon is using too wich can show me the progress of a
> running autovacuum?
Yes, they are kept in pg_stat_all_tables.
from this random garbage to make it easier for
> indexing?
Using trigrams perhaps? Try checking whether pg_trgm fits your needs.
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database 163880909; blocked by process 32450.
I don't find this very surprising ... I would suggest using "reindex
index" for each index instead. I'm not sure if REINDEX TABLE is
supposed to be deadlock-free.
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8.3 -- you may want to try
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processes apart in pg_stat_activity. Perhaps we could have
added a column in pg_stat_activity indicating processes that don't hold
old tuples, but I feel that would have been a little too much.
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pg_stat_activity should be NULL...
> Why does it matter? Monitoring. It's good to know the age of oldest
> running transaction, and autovacuuming is well, adding noise.
Autovacuum certainly uses transactions ... ??
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ications), what is the best way to process with a pooler ...
> install one on each node or one on each database ?
I don't really know the answer to this, but if you have one per database
server, then all the web nodes are going to share the connections to
that databa
e PG polo shirts
>> available.
>
> O.k., o.k. :) I will look into costs.
Hmm, did this go anywhere? I still look for the shiny new Pg polos on
the mail every day, only to be disappointed.
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al=localhost user=fossy
> password=fossy'
> Connection status: '1'
> ERROR: Failed to open database
Weird. Are you sure you are connecting to the same postmaster? i.e.
are the port settings the same?
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r do you recommand, and what will be the improvement for
> us ?
The two most recommended ones I've seen around here are pgbouncer and
pgpool. I think pgbouncer is supposed to perform better, at the cost of
not having certain bells and whistles (which you may not need anyway).
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use the openSUSE
build service to build the RPMs for other distros too (the various
Fedoras, CentOS, RHEL); they advertise it as working for that, though I
wasn't able to find an actual list of supported distributions.
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uy is the Postgres Architect?
Hmm, I'm guessing there are still a lot of things that are directly
related to Stonebraker's work. I'm fairly sure there were code comments
about PostQUEL commands somewhere.
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Before you start randomly zeroing stuff, do you have any files in
pg_clog? What does that directory look like?
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>> together.
> I did essentially that, outside of make, for ppc/i386 doing 2 separate builds
> and then using lipo to join each file in bin and lib.
Sure looks like this should be doable with only Makefile rules. I very
much doubt it would be pain
CET
> Time of latest checkpoint:Thu 11 Jan 1116953 03:46:31 CET
> LC_COLLATE:
> LC_CTYPE:
What's the full pg_controldata output? Can you send the pg_control file
as a binary attachment?
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>
> when committing a transaction returns with an error: Do I have to
> rollback the transaction in this case?
No; it is already rolled back.
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gresqlconference.org and planetpostgresql.org
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> It's not unlikely that the server is crashing. This should not happen.
>> Please examine the logs and let us know what you find.
>>
>> If it's indeed crashing, we would like to see a more complete report
>
y that there will be an additional hurdle
when trying to restore, because the referenced table would not have been
created in the first place.
That said, IMHO the idea of storing metadata as part of data is a bad
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It's not unlikely that the server is crashing. This should not happen.
Please examine the logs and let us know what you find.
If it's indeed crashing, we would like to see a more complete report
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g/certification program.
Regarding Cesar Villanueva, I bet you can reach him at
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> newly created via
>
> pg_restore -l geodataportal.public | grep -v FUNCTION >
> pgdump.geodataportal.public.no-func
>
> has only the TOC. But no data...
Then you feed that file to pg_restore -L, along the original dump file.
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tool fits the bill. If
you cannot find out at a keystroke where to find the definition of
NameStr() you are doomed [to take a lot longer to understand what's
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Vivek Khera wrote:
>
> On Jan 31, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>
>> I think you should be able to chmod the files after they have been
>> created. The postmaster changes its umask to 0077, so no file is
>> group-readable. I don't think is configurabl
er changes its umask to 0077, so no file is
group-readable. I don't think is configurable either.
Perhaps we should add a log_file_group option, to which we would chgrp()
the log files.
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> Simon Riggs wrote:
>> As far as I am concerned, if any Postgres user loses data then we're all
>> responsible.
Remember, our license says this software is given without any warranty
whatsoever, implicit or explicit, written or implied, given or sold,
alive or deceased.
t; how your distro does things (perhaps modifying the startup script).
Actually, as of 8.0 there is specialized process that captures stderr
and saves it to log files.
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vincent wrote:
> True, but that only works for experienced 'nerds' who get a kick out of
> connecting dots. Joe Average want's a bit more assistance, a bit more
> guidance.
Have you read the Tutorial section of the docs? What do you feel it is
missing? Can you contr
1717C03
>
> How is that different than the existing Postgres group?
Is there an existing Postgres group?
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marcelo Cortez escribió:
> i've tried too with
> convmv -f iso-8859-1 --notest -t utf-8 es_ES.dic
> whitout success too.
convmv only recodes the name of the file -- the content is not affected.
To recode the file content you need iconv.
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s so much easier (and
> less maintenance) to include it as a function.
Having the trusted language does not mean you lose the untrusted one.
We have both plperl and plperlu, for example.
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h towards index
insertion. I doubt we want to know _all_ the entries beforehand; that
would probably involve disk-spilling, etc. Perhaps accumulate a
reasonable number (using up to work_mem?) and insert those in batches.
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Dave Page wrote:
> That said, is zlib used by toast or do we have some other code for
> that? If it is used for that, do we record it's presence or absence in
> pg_control?
Nope, toast uses its own compression code.
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> if the standard doesn't specify any obligation to convert the name ?
Actually I think the standard mandates case-folding (though to upper
case rather than lower, i.e. the other way around)
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> yes.
Did anything happen?
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done according to your
> comment. The message, if emited, should say then that only superuser
> can analyze those tables.
How about this patch.
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