Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-21 Thread Jasen Betts
On 2009-05-20, Gilles wrote: > At 10:58 20/05/2009, Craig Ringer wrote: >>I suspect a lot of that comes down to user/admin knowledge as much >>as anything. [...] That said, there are also a few bugs lurking that >>only affect the Windows version. [...] I've used Pg on my laptop at >>various poi

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
On Wednesday 20. May 2009, Dave Page wrote: >On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo >> oh and yeah... I know a "Tuning Wizard" is evil and will hide all >> the true unleashed hidden wonderful power you can really squeeze out >> of Postgresql and corrupt your soul... but still ;) >

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Howard Cole
Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:59:34 +0100 Raymond O'Donnell wrote: On 20/05/2009 11:49, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: I think you could connect from Delphi through ODBC, meybe even on some .NET driver. I think ODBC should be more mature... but don't trust me.

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
(I sent this message four hours ago, but it hasn't appeared on the list. I'll make a second try.) On Wednesday 20. May 2009, Dave Page wrote: >On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo >> oh and yeah... I know a "Tuning Wizard" is evil and will hide all >> the true unleashed hidden

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Andy Colson
Gilles wrote: At 10:29 20/05/2009, Simon Riggs wrote: We get this question a lot. Yes, there are many technical differences between various open source products. Sorry about that. I should have dwelved deeper and read this before asking:

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Greg Smith
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Dave Page wrote: The machines used to build the installers (which includes regression testing etc) all run either Sophos AV, or AVG Free Edition, neither of which I've ever had any problems with when working on PostgreSQL. I added this to a broken out section focusing on

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 20/05/2009 12:36, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > What is the status of the .NET driver? > Are my assumptions about ODBC vs. .NET valuable or where they just a > remaining of the past/some nightmare I just had? > > Any appreciable difference between the Windows .NET driver and the > *nix one? I

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 2009 06:59:28 -0400 > Dave Page wrote: > >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo >> wrote: >> ] >> > I was surprised how polished the installation was. >> >> Thanks :-) > > Beside the fact I can only

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 20 May 2009 06:59:28 -0400 Dave Page wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo > wrote: > ] > > I was surprised how polished the installation was. > > Thanks :-) Beside the fact I can only thank for all the great work around postgresql, is there a reason we can't

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 20 May 2009 11:59:34 +0100 Raymond O'Donnell wrote: > On 20/05/2009 11:49, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > > I think you could connect from Delphi through ODBC, meybe even on > > some .NET driver. I think ODBC should be more mature... but don't > > trust me. > > You can use ODBC and .NET

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Raymond O'Donnell, 20.05.2009 12:59: I second thisit "just works", and the fact that the installer comes with a silent-install option means that you can roll it into your own installer for use in this sort of scenario. I like the fact that there is a ZIP file that I can simply extract which

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 20/05/2009 11:59, Dave Page wrote: > Whilst I'm emailing - the thread earlier mentioned virus scanners as a > common source of problems (in fact, Craig gave a nice explanation of > why). The machines used to build the installers (which includes > regression testing etc) all run either Sophos AV

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: ] > I was surprised how polished the installation was. Thanks :-) > On Windows the installer even comes with a couple of goodies more: > namely a tuning wizard and some debugging components. > Nothing that really make you miss the *ni

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 20/05/2009 11:49, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > I think you could connect from Delphi through ODBC, meybe even on > some .NET driver. I think ODBC should be more mature... but don't > trust me. You can use ODBC and .NET (depending on which version of Delphi you have), and there are also variou

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
On Wed, 20 May 2009 09:32:13 +0200 Gilles wrote: > Hello > > I'm looking for an open-source DBMS that runs on Linux and > Windows. In order to make an informed choice, I would like some > feedback on the Windows port of PostgreSQL, as compared to MySQL > and Firebird (if you know of yet ot

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
Gilles, If some users have been using the native Win32 version of PG in production, > I'd like to hear how it runs in terms of stability and performance. This > DBMS is meant to be used in SOHO settings, meaning it should be very easy to > install, use, and kept up-to-date. > I have used the nati

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Gilles, 20.05.2009 09:32: Is the Windows port on par with the *nix version, and with those other alternatives? Apart from the fact that, unlike MySQL, PostgreSQL doesn't require buying a license when developping commercial applications, are there technical reasons why I should choose PostgreSQL

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Gilles
At 10:58 20/05/2009, Craig Ringer wrote: I suspect a lot of that comes down to user/admin knowledge as much as anything. [...] That said, there are also a few bugs lurking that only affect the Windows version. [...] I've used Pg on my laptop at various points when it's been running Windows, and

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Craig Ringer
Gilles wrote: > I see that "Windows compatibility is available via the Cygwin framework. > Native Windows compatibility is also available with version 8.0 and > above": At this point, is installing the server still a headache? That's hopelessly out of date, wherever it came from. PostgreSQL 8.3

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Gilles
At 10:29 20/05/2009, Simon Riggs wrote: We get this question a lot. Yes, there are many technical differences between various open source products. Sorry about that. I should have dwelved deeper and read this before asking:

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Gilles
At 10:20 20/05/2009, Richard Huxton wrote: You'll probably need to give some details of how you intend to use it. One-off on large server hardware? Hundreds of copies deployed around the world on XP machines 5 years old? Sorry, forgot about this point: It's just for concurrent accesses from a

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Craig Ringer
Richard Huxton wrote: >> Is the Windows port on par with the *nix version, and with those other >> alternatives? > The main Windows problems we see on the mailing lists all revolve around > (1) installation and (2) anti-virus. PostgreSQL runs as a "unprivileged" > user in unix terms, and given th

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Richard Huxton
Gilles wrote: Hello I'm looking for an open-source DBMS that runs on Linux and Windows. In order to make an informed choice, I would like some feedback on the Windows port of PostgreSQL, as compared to MySQL and Firebird (if you know of yet other solutions, I'm also interested.) You'll

Re: [GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:32 +0200, Gilles wrote: > I'm looking for an open-source DBMS that runs on Linux and > Windows. > In order to make an informed choice, I would like some feedback on > the Windows port of PostgreSQL, as compared to MySQL and Firebird (if > you know of yet other s

[GENERAL] [Windows] Feedback on PG?

2009-05-20 Thread Gilles
Hello I'm looking for an open-source DBMS that runs on Linux and Windows. In order to make an informed choice, I would like some feedback on the Windows port of PostgreSQL, as compared to MySQL and Firebird (if you know of yet other solutions, I'm also interested.) Is the Windows port on pa