Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, January 17, 2008 11:48, Scott Marlowe wrote: > Got bored, hacked this aggregious pl/pgsql routine up. It looks > horrible, but I wanted it to be able to use indexes. Seems to work. > Test has ~750k rows and returns in it and returns a new id in < 1ms > on my little server. > > File att

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Jan 17, 2008 9:19 AM, James B. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, January 17, 2008 10:15, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > > > If race conditions are a possible issue, you use a sequence and > > increment that until you get a number that isn't used. That way two > > clients connecting at the

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Jan 17, 2008 9:19 AM, James B. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, January 17, 2008 10:15, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > > > If race conditions are a possible issue, you use a sequence and > > increment that until you get a number that isn't used. That way two > > clients connecting at the

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, January 17, 2008 10:15, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > If race conditions are a possible issue, you use a sequence and > increment that until you get a number that isn't used. That way two > clients connecting at the same time can get different, available > numbers. > That is close to the idea

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Jan 17, 2008 9:05 AM, James B. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the entries involved numbered in the millions then Scott's approach has > considerable merit. In my case, as the rate of additions is very low and > the size of the existing blocks is in the hundreds rather than hundreds of

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-17 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, January 16, 2008 18:40, Scott Marlowe wrote: > You're essentially wanting to fill in the blanks here. If you need > good performance, then what you'll need to do is to preallocate all > the numbers that haven't been assigned somewhere. So, we make a table > something like: > > create tab

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-16 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Jan 11, 2008 10:43 AM, James B. Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am prototyping a system migration that is to employ Ruby, Rails and > PostgreSQL. Rails has the convention that the primary key of a row is an > arbitrary integer value assigned by the database manager through a > sequence. A

Re: [GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:43:54AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > My question is this: Can one assign an id number to a sequenced key column > on create and override the sequencer? If one does this then can and, if > so, how does the sequencer in Postgresql handle the eventuality of running > into

[GENERAL] Help with pre-loaded arbitrary key sequences

2008-01-16 Thread James B. Byrne
I am prototyping a system migration that is to employ Ruby, Rails and PostgreSQL. Rails has the convention that the primary key of a row is an arbitrary integer value assigned by the database manager through a sequence. As it turns out, the legacy application employs essentially the same conventi