Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-21 Thread Craig Ringer
We live in a world where compliance is king. Nevermind if compliance doesn't actually make the system more secure. Er .. re my previous post, I don't mean "lie to RH and claim to want to buy RHEL to get free support". I mean that you should consider going to management and getting approval fo

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-21 Thread Craig Ringer
On 12/22/2010 02:05 AM, Kenneth Buckler wrote: I find it very comforting that I am not the only one who finds this requirement a bit "out there". Unfortunately, these requirements are set in stone, and no matter how hard I try, can not be altered. We live in a world where compliance is king. Ne

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-21 Thread Kenneth Buckler
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Craig Ringer wrote: > > Do you have a trusted boot path from BIOS to bootloader to kernel to init > core userspace, where everything is digitally signed (by you or someone > else) and verified before execution? Do you disable kernel module loading? > > If not, you'

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread Craig Ringer
On 12/21/2010 06:12 AM, Kenneth Buckler wrote: Hello, I am investigating security requirements for configuring a PostgreSQL database on a Linux system. One of the security requirements our organization would like to implement is "trusted startup", in that PostgreSQL would verify the authenticity

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread Kenneth Buckler
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote: > > > But, if the script is run on the same machine as postgresql is on, the > scripts that check for changes could be compromised as well and then > you'd never know. > I agree, if the system has been compromised, nothing will prevent the scr

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > I would look into selinux.   lock it down with this, and it will be much > harder to compromise. I agree. By the time you've got compromised binaries / config files on the system, you've already lost. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing lis

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/20/10 11:12 AM, Kenneth Buckler wrote: Hello, I am investigating security requirements for configuring a PostgreSQL database on a Linux system. One of the security requirements our organization would like to implement is "trusted startup", in that PostgreSQL would verify the authenticit

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Kenneth Buckler wrote: > Hello, > > I am investigating security requirements for configuring a PostgreSQL > database on a Linux system. > One of the security requirements our organization would like to implement is > "trusted startup", in that PostgreSQL would ver

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL Trusted Startup

2010-12-20 Thread Kenneth Buckler
Hello, I am investigating security requirements for configuring a PostgreSQL database on a Linux system. One of the security requirements our organization would like to implement is "trusted startup", in that PostgreSQL would verify the authenticity of the binaries and configuration files before m