Re: Failover (was Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?)

2001-02-12 Thread Chris Jones
Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Besides dumping and COPY'ing the data into the second server, is there > another form of easy one-way replication available? My schema has just Have you looked at PG's replication? It's included in 7.1, and you can get it from (I think) www.postgr

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
> The part about cache incoherency is very true, the _only_ cache coherency > NFS offers is _only_ in the v3 spec, and is specifically called 'wcc' > 'weak cache coherency' (afaik). So yes, you can expect differnent > NFS clients to get different inconsistant views on heavily modified > files unl

Re: Failover (was Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?)

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
Shaw Terwilliger wrote: > Besides dumping and COPY'ing the data into the second server, is there > another form of easy one-way replication available? My schema has just > a few simple tables (six tables, a few rows each). But these tables > may hold a few million records each. I've estimated t

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010209 16:18] wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Actually NFS has very strong write ordering semantics, it just has > > terrible cache coherency. Meaning two machines accessing the same > > file will most likely see different things if the file is updated

Failover (was Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?)

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
Steve Wolfe wrote: > They may want to put the data on a file server, so that it gets backed up, > and has the advantage of a hardware fault-tolerant RAID array. Tht has it's > merits, but I don't think it woul dbe that great for performance. We spent > the money to put another RAID array in th

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Actually NFS has very strong write ordering semantics, it just has > terrible cache coherency. Meaning two machines accessing the same > file will most likely see different things if the file is updated > moderately. I'm not an NFS guru by any means, but I've noticed ep

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > NFS == Not F** Stable, don't do it. :) Any DBA will want to > hurt you when he hears about you running a production DB over NFS. Well, I thought it wasn't a very safe thing to do. Their network administrator (the guy who buys machines, schedules backups, etc.) sug

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
Bruce Momjian wrote: > It is not performance I would be concerned about, but reliability. NFS > has no state for reliability. I have to ask why they are using NFS > rather than putting it on a drive local to the machine. If they say > they want to share the data between two machines, that is ev

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010209 15:40] wrote: > Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have a client who wants to know how PostgreSQL (7) will perform over > > NFS. The NFS client is Solaris, the server is a big network storage=20 > > appliance. The network is probably gigabit

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Steve Wolfe
> It is not performance I would be concerned about, but reliability. NFS > has no state for reliability. I have to ask why they are using NFS > rather than putting it on a drive local to the machine. If they say > they want to share the data between two machines, that is even crazier. They m

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Tom Lane
Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a client who wants to know how PostgreSQL (7) will perform over > NFS. The NFS client is Solaris, the server is a big network storage=20 > appliance. The network is probably gigabit ethernet. > My first reaction is to tell them they're just

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Shaw Terwilliger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010209 15:12] wrote: > I've been using PostgreSQL for a few years now in various projects, and > I've been very happy with its features and performance. > > I have a client who wants to know how PostgreSQL (7) will perform over > NFS. The NFS client is Sol

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
-- Start of PGP signed section. > I've been using PostgreSQL for a few years now in various projects, and > I've been very happy with its features and performance. > > I have a client who wants to know how PostgreSQL (7) will perform over > NFS. The NFS client is Solaris, the server is a big net

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL over NFS?

2001-02-09 Thread Shaw Terwilliger
I've been using PostgreSQL for a few years now in various projects, and I've been very happy with its features and performance. I have a client who wants to know how PostgreSQL (7) will perform over NFS. The NFS client is Solaris, the server is a big network storage appliance. The network is p