Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, dave madden wrote: > =>From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > =>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:01:05 -0400 (EDT) > =>... > =>> This would be major leap for PostgreSQL if someone financed two > =>> months of Vadim for example ... > => > =>That would be great. I feel li

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-29 Thread dave madden
=>From: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:01:05 -0400 (EDT) =>... =>> This would be major leap for PostgreSQL if someone financed two =>> months of Vadim for example ... => =>That would be great. I feel like I am standing still when Vadim is =>working. Hi.

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-29 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Andrew Martin wrote: > Scrappy wrote...: > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > easier. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I think Postg

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-29 Thread Andrew Martin
Scrappy wrote...: > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > > > > > > > easier. > > > > > > > > Actually, I think Postgres originally came out of the Ingres family, > > > > > > O

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Hi, > > let me add one thing here ... (if this comes a second time, of missed > the first one ...) > > Wouldn't it be possible to get some backing from one of the > commercial Linux distribution makers? Like Redhat supports Gnome or > S.u.S.e supports XFree? What about GNU? Anyone listening

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread Wilson MacGyver
> That is the real problem. I have to assume whenever you start implementing raw > devices, you go far far away from DBMS design to OS design. Perhaps you do not > have to write the process control part of an OS, but (I mean this jokingly) in > one's arrogance one must think you can access the

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Boersenspielteam wrote: > Hi, > > let me add one thing here ... (if this comes a second time, of missed > the first one ...) > > Wouldn't it be possible to get some backing from one of the > commercial Linux distribution makers? Like Redhat supports Gnome or > S.u.S.e su

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread Boersenspielteam
Hi, let me add one thing here ... (if this comes a second time, of missed the first one ...) Wouldn't it be possible to get some backing from one of the commercial Linux distribution makers? Like Redhat supports Gnome or S.u.S.e supports XFree? What about GNU? Anyone listening? This would be

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread James Olin Oden
> The other problem with trying to implement RAW devices, and, > granted, I could be over cmplicating it, but how do you implement it > across X operating systems running Y platforms? Doesn't each of them > access drives differently? And, in some cases, multiply that by two for > IDE vs

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 14:46 +0300 on 28/7/98, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Herouth Maoz wrote: > > > He didn't ask me what the features were. I'm quite willing to specify them. > > Yes, I'm quite aware that many of them are in the pipeline... But hey, if I > > install Oracle/Informix, I'd have t

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Herouth Maoz wrote: > He didn't ask me what the features were. I'm quite willing to specify them. > Yes, I'm quite aware that many of them are in the pipeline... But hey, if I > install Oracle/Informix, I'd have them all *now*, tested and debugged by > many users before me. >

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-28 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 20:20 +0300 on 27/7/98, Chris Johnson wrote: > Come on - be reasonable... The person that asked if you would be willing > to pay some money to get the development of features you want was not > suggesting that you would have a special version of PostgreSQL. Any > additions made would wind up

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > > > > > Has there ever been any discussion about a new name? It doesn't matter to > > > > me but it would seem that with the current discussions about

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
> On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > > > Has there ever been any discussion about a new name? It doesn't matter to > > > me but it would seem that with the current discussions about promotion and > > > competition, it might help to have

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Bruce Momjian wrote: > University Ingres was first, then commercial Ingres was a split-off. > PostgreSQL is based on University Ingres. That's what I thought... Brett W. McCoy http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy --

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > Has there ever been any discussion about a new name? It doesn't matter to > > me but it would seem that with the current discussions about promotion and > > competition, it might help to have a more "public

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > Has there ever been any discussion about a new name? It doesn't matter to > me but it would seem that with the current discussions about promotion and > competition, it might help to have a more "public friendly" name. It is > not obvious to me what a "pos

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Steve Logue wrote: > > > > postgres willing to create a logo a la apache, powered by postgresql? > > > it'll be up on my site in no time at all. > > > > Since I last made a batch of logo's to prompt comments, I've been meaning to > >

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Amos Hayes
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett W. McCoy wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > > > I almost hate to ask, and really, it's not a big deal to me personally, > > but why is it called "PostgreSQL"? > > Originally it was just Postgres, and didn't support any SQL. When it was > redesigned wit

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Amos Hayes wrote: > I almost hate to ask, and really, it's not a big deal to me personally, > but why is it called "PostgreSQL"? Originally it was just Postgres, and didn't support any SQL. When it was redesigned with SQL support, that's when the SQL postfix came about. Ac

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Amos Hayes
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Steve Logue wrote: > > postgres willing to create a logo a la apache, powered by postgresql? > > it'll be up on my site in no time at all. > > Since I last made a batch of logo's to prompt comments, I've been meaning to > make a "serious" attempt again but keep getting side

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 23:36 +0300 on 21/7/98, Steve Doliov wrote: > in commercial enterprises such as Oracle, INnformix and Sybase, whether to > implement a feature or part of a standard gets boiled down to a business > decision/question -- will adding this or that create more profit for the > company? if the ans

Re: [GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Steve Logue
Steve Doliov wrote:Postgres offered banner ads for a while. SPeaking of promoting it, is > postgres willing to create a logo a la apache, powered by postgresql? > it'll be up on my site in no time at all. Since I last made a batch of logo's to prompt comments, I've been meaning to make a "serio

[GENERAL] Postgres vs commercial products

1998-07-22 Thread Steve Doliov
As long as postgres is open source and free, postgres never has to worry about the commercial competition (in my eyes). i have far more faith in the postgresql developers to implement features and standards than i do in the commercial vendors of similar systems. in commercial enterprises such as