Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Thomas Lockhart
> That depends on what your market is - for businesses who wants to be > able to hide source, yes. For businesses who use it, being sure the > source is available is the best - which the GPL guarantees. BSD gives > the middle man more freedom to screw the end user ;) Well, we all want more freedo

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Sergio A. Kessler
Philip Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> el día Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:13:12 +1000, escribió: >As a company who wants PostgreSQL to remain in the public domain, I would >prefer to see it go GPL; I agree with this. (altough is not public domain, it's copywrigth'ed, well copyleft'ed). btw, if you change

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Sevo Stille
Chris Bitmead wrote: > Actually that is the exact reason you _don't_ want to be based in the > USA. Do you really want Postgres to be breaking new ground in the > courts? The USA is at the leading edge of lame new legislation. If the > postgresql licence is locked into Virginia law forever, (beca

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Chris Bitmead
> Good point. But the USA is the demon spawning ground for lawyers, and is > at the leading edge of aggressive new legal territory. Actually that is the exact reason you _don't_ want to be based in the USA. Do you really want Postgres to be breaking new ground in the courts? The USA is at the l

Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Mike Mascari
Tom Lane wrote: > > Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Postgres is starting to become a visible thing, and is going to be used > > by people who don't know much about the free software movement. And > > *I'm* within reach of the American court system, and *you* can > > contribute cod

[ANNOUNCE] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Philip Warner
At 03:23 4/07/00 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >IMHO we'd be damned fools to >ignore his advice completely. Sticking your head in the sand is not >a good defense mechanism. FWIW, I think the disclaimer could be strengthened to protect people who sell the PostgreSQL CD, and people who offer it on server

[ANNOUNCE] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Philip Warner
At 03:23 4/07/00 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >IMHO we'd be damned fools to >ignore his advice completely. Sticking your head in the sand is not >a good defense mechanism. I think virtually everybody is happy with the extra disclaimer. It the other parts that bother me. -

[ANNOUNCE] Re: [GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-04 Thread Tom Lane
Thomas Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Postgres is starting to become a visible thing, and is going to be used > by people who don't know much about the free software movement. And > *I'm* within reach of the American court system, and *you* can > contribute code which could make me a targe

[GENERAL] Re: [HACKERS] proposed improvements to PostgreSQL license

2000-07-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Ned Lilly writes: > What we'd like to propose is a general tightening up of what the > existing license is *supposed* to be doing in the first place - In order to tighten up the license you'd need to get every developer past, present, and future to sign paperwork that they agree to this change.