Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Albe Laurenz
otheus uibk wrote: > Just to nit-pick, I see nowhere in either version of the manual the > indication that it is normal for > postgresql to continue to update files in its data catalog between > pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup. > The closest I see comes in this paragraph: > > ** Some file sys

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread David G. Johnston
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, otheus uibk wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:13 PM, otheus uibk wrote: > >> Thank you, all. The manual for 9.4 is indeed clearer on this point than >> the 9.1 version. >> > > Just to nit-pick, I see nowhere in either version of the manual the > indication that i

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 06/08/2015 06:26 AM, otheus uibk wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:13 PM, otheus uibk mailto:otheus.u...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you, all. The manual for 9.4 is indeed clearer on this point than the 9.1 version. Just to nit-pick, I see nowhere in either version of the manual the ind

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 06/08/2015 05:45 AM, otheus uibk wrote: The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, file-level backups may be made by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup operations. Many people including myself have found that

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread otheus uibk
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:13 PM, otheus uibk wrote: > Thank you, all. The manual for 9.4 is indeed clearer on this point than > the 9.1 version. > Just to nit-pick, I see nowhere in either version of the manual the indication that it is normal for postgresql to continue to update files in its da

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread otheus uibk
Thank you, all. The manual for 9.4 is indeed clearer on this point than the 9.1 version.

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 06/08/15 14:45, otheus uibk wrote: The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, file-level backups may be made by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup operations. Many people including myself have found that in so

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Guillaume Lelarge
Le 8 juin 2015 2:48 PM, "otheus uibk" a écrit : > > The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, file-level backups may be made by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup operations. Many people including myself have fou

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Albe Laurenz
otheus uibk wrote: > The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, > file-level backups may be made > by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and > pg_stop_backup > operations. Many people including myself have found that in some > cir

Re: [GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread Jan Lentfer
Am 2015-06-08 14:45, schrieb otheus uibk: The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, file-level backups may be made by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup operations.  Many people including myself have found that

[GENERAL] pg_start_backup does not actually allow for consistent, file-level backup

2015-06-08 Thread otheus uibk
The manual and in this mailing list, the claim is made that consistent, file-level backups may be made by bracketing the file-copy operation with the postgresql pg_start_backup and pg_stop_backup operations. Many people including myself have found that in some circumstances, using "tar" to copy th